Discussion in 'Community' started by ManaByte, Jun 14, 2013.
Anyone seen Jim Sterling's latest?
Finished this last night. Overall thought it was really well done.
Me playing STALKER shortly before going back to playing through TLOU2: "Well, at least I don't have to face anything like this in The Last of Us."
Me getting to the Stalkers in The Last of Us 2: "Oh, right, I forgot."
Just finished. What a fantastic experience. Just incredible. I loved it even more than the first game, which is saying something.
OK, so I think I'm nearing the end and I have to say that the only character I really have more sympathy for at this time is Marlene after that talk she had with Abby's dad. Really, it's kind of what makes me not like Abby or him that much at all. Along with the comical lengths that the game goes to in order to have you sympathize with Abby in the first place. Sure, I get that her dad was killed and that she believed in him, but leave some room for him to actually be a flawed individual that we have some discomfort with (like Joel, really) instead of portraying him as this wholesome guy who saves animals and stuff. It's really kind of a joke.
his flaw is that he is all in on killing Ellie without her own or Joel's consent. He's obsessed with curing the virus and is willing to suspend people's rights to do it.
Yeah I thought that was a pretty obvious flaw. It also led to his death in a way.... so definitely not without consequences.
One thing that has surprised me when looking at people's thoughts on the game is how unsympathetic they are regarding Joel's actions at the end of the first game. Whilst it was selfish, I honestly think that anyone in the same position would do exactly the same.
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I don't know about that. I definitely felt really uneasy about it while playing the first game. I ended up feeling that Joel had changed to become someone who cares about ONE person, but not people in general. It's a realistic story and actions, but I don't think EVERYONE would have done the same. We clearly see that Ellie, for instance, did not agree with Joel's decision and taking away her agency.
I mean if we were in Joel's position. I honestly don't think anyone who'd gone through what he had would let Ellie die. Not just losing his daughter, but travelling across the US with a girl who became like a daughter to him and gave him a reason to live again. The fact Abby's Dad dodges the question is really telling I think. No father worthy of the title would let their kid die to save one life or a million lives.
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Completely disagree. To save millions? I would sacrifice anyone, if they were also okay with it. Which Ellie was.
I think more people than ever sympathize with Joel given the apparent lack of confidence n the procedure portrayed on Abby's father's part.
My issue is that they don't really explore that with the same enthusiasm they would Joel's more possessive and gruesome tendencies. So when they spend more time portraying him as this boy scout who saves animals in this game that tries to have an ambiguous perspective on a bunch of different factions and people, it's a bit eye roll-worthy.
I sympathize with every character, but also disagree with every character. It's quite amazing how much they put you in the shoes of these characters, and make you question so much of their decisions.
Joel - He lost his daughter so I sympathize that he'd do anything to keep Ellie alive after the fatherly connection he developed with her. But I disagree that he'd kill people and go against her own wishes to do so.
Ellie - I sympathize that she'd want to kill everyone involved in Joel's death. But I disagree that she'd put her own life and others close to her at risk to do so, and take herself down such a violent path to do so.
Abby - I sympathize that she'd kill Joel after he murderer her father. But I disagree that she wasted so much of her life hunting him down and killed him so brutally.
Abby's father - I sympathize that he'd want to do anything to create a cure to save humanity. But I disagree that he'd take people's lives without consent to do so.
Yeah that's the great thing about this. I felt they were all complicated.
Voted for it for best PS game but GoT for best visual design..
Very excited about this.
Can I talk about TLOU2 without tags or do I still need them?
THE QUEEN IN THE NORTH!!!
I can see it. I’ve also seen reports that Mahershala Ali could be playing Joel but that seems less certain.
Yes!! So happy for her. Such a fantastic choice.
If the show goes well, this’ll be the role that gets her famous. I wish her luck, but I know she’ll own it.