ST The MacGuffin in Ep. IX

I think AD he is teasing the official announcement and explanation of the B&W trilogy about the old republic time

And the controversial stuff in IX is meant to be cheap fanservice

 

Reylo would be controversial.

 

I was serious about the time travel. Maybe not a hot tub though.

 

Not to sound like a broken record but they said the MacGuffin could be "somewhat controversial." Having the hero of the trilogy shack up with the dude that killed Han Solo and tried to kill Finn would be very controversial.

Something somewhat controversial would probably more along the lines of Luke interacting with the physical world briefly or the Falcon blowing up, or Kylo being redeemed and living.

 

Would Mace Windu be a controversial MacGuffin?

 

I am thinking controversial in that a supposed divided fan base will see it that way no matter what is done with certain concepts. Think back to posters on here saying they would be angry to see Luke come back IN FLESH because this is not his story any longer and that tramps down the new characters. Then you have a group that is already thinking boycott because Luke died in TLJ and they are so dissatisfied. Reylo and retcons of various types would also be examples. What is controversy to some may be opportunity to others and might even be "delightful" depending on the POV.

 

We have seen Rey and C3PO together in that comic. Any two-minute conversation with him and with R2D2 would lead her to the prequels, and that means Anakin and Shmi. In any case, it also means Tatooine. And before Tatooine there was Palpatine, it seems.

Theres something vital placed in those droids, or in a particular place 'tied' to them, vital for the survival of the rebellion, and also vital for the bad guys? In TFA, the macguffin was a 30yo map placed in an object that was placed in a droid leading to a 30yo (ANH-TFA Luke) legendary man placed on an island.

C3PO memory was wiped, but not R2D2's. And maybe a moment of weakness on Vader's part was also crucial!

According to the AOTC novelisation Shmi completed C3PO before her marriage. 'To Shmi, C3PO remained a reminder of her son'. The son remembered too.





End of the post. I had to hurt somebody after reading those insane tweets from Daniels. Eye cancer is probably on the way.

 

I like my idea.

 

I'm betting it's Constable Zuvio.

 

The Sith Cult doesn't die as easily as we think.
They disappeared for a thousand years, supposedly.

If just killing the Master and Apprentice was all that is needed, then they would have been gone long ago.

Someone will take up the title. It may need some magical Infinity Stone to get it done. So Rey better stop that from being found.

 

Right, I see what you're saying. My take on Reylo is that he will survive and continue the bloodline anyway, because to me, Reylo only works if he lives.

As far as the somewhat controversial mcguffin goes, it might be that Leia is said to be alive and well, but the truth is she had passed some time before, reducing the chances that any others would join their cause. Maybe the First Order hears rumors that she might be dead and seek to expose that, thus hoping whatever alliances that the newly established Resistance group strive to form will not happen without a strong leader like Leia.

 

The original Macguffin was R2-D2. He was the driving force of the plot, but was of little significance other than to motive the characters.

 

No, he would still be a Jedi Master

 

Rey is Anakin's midichlorian conceived twin sister, also created by the Force, but on Jakku not Tatooine, itself a Force induced twin planet hence their similarities. The prophecy of the balance of the Force is actually Anakin (evil) balanced by Rey (good). Rey and Kylo discover this when they get to the Macguffin at the end of the film.

I had considered Rey was held in cryogenic clone storage (by Palpatine) since Anakin's birth in the Empire research facility on Jakku people have mentioned. But actually this is unnecessary - she could just be conceived by the Force decades later, the time difference doesn't necessarily matter for her to be a Force twin.

 

What if the controversial but delightful(?) thing from the beyond is our “other Skywalker” of the ST like Leia was in the OT? It would mirror a little too as the OT started with a Skywalker and then added another with a different last name and the ST started with one with a different last name and ended with a Skywalker. It would be controversial but also delightful as we would have a living person with the last name Skywalker in this trilogy. Maybe an Owen Skywalker? I always thought look in the new canon would name a potential son after the man who raised him after the whole Ben Solo reveal. Could be Matt Smith as a KOR or someone else. Preferably someone good or who would be end up good. Luke not mentioning it could be explained away as he might not have known what happened because of the temple attack, cutting himself off from the Force, or maybe he just simply didn’t want to discuss it, losing a child one way or another, and that could also be a major motivation for his exile. Good or bad it would be a surprise that I don’t think anyone or most would see coming at this point and would add some much needed Skywalker to the Skywalker Saga in my opinion, and this is coming from someone who is a big fan of Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.


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MSW said that the MacGuffin was more "controversial" than "delightful" (apparently only a non-fan claimed it was deligthful). Seeing how people here hopelessly try to find a scenario that would make Rey Skywalker credible, I don't think that a new Skywalker would be controversial; and of course, it would be deligthful for most fans.

 

It would create debate and disagreement for months on here, so the fandom could be described in that scenario to be controversial, whilst people who are are little more dispationate - the GA - would be more "aww that's nice"

I've no real clue or opinion on the matter, but I see how it might fit the bill of that described.

 

sith artifacts or some powerful weapon (save another explicit Death star/starkiller) don't fit the description. A lot of stretching going on in this thread. Controversial to me means that it's clearly connected to something in the story we're already familiar with. It's not going to require some ridiculous amount of exposition.

 

Important motivating element/person that sets actions in motion
TFA: Map to Luke / Luke (map is a means to this end)
RO: Galen Erso (briefly Jyn's motivation) / Death Star Plans
TLJ: Hyperspace Tracker (briefly) / ???
SOLO: Coaxium AKA Hyperfuel / Qi'ra (briefly Han's motivation)

 

The way I see it, "Reylo" would contradict one of TLJ's major themes: Bloodline doesn't define who you are. Connecting Rey to the Skywalker bloodline would undermine the idea that her importance isn't linked to the Skywalker family.

 

This is probably not what is going to happen, but I like to think it'll:

Have the McGuffin be a ancient sith holocron. Have the (new) villain hide it somewhere in the Galaxy. Whoever "opens" this holocron gain total control over the Force, becoming a "Force God". Kylo knows where it is. Rey knows how to activate it. Kylo wants it for himself, Rey has to destroy it.
So it's like a the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Character A knows a detail, character B knows the other detail.

Not going to happen though

 

IX has already been compared to Sergio Leone's work.

 

Far too much of a hokey Avengers-type plot.