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The Mandalorian The Mandalorian 2.08 - Chapter 16 (Season Finale!!) - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Dec 17, 2020.

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Grade the episode

Poll closed Jan 1, 2021.
  1. 10

    65.2%
  2. 9

    18.9%
  3. 8

    9.0%
  4. 7

    2.6%
  5. 6

    2.1%
  6. 5

    0.9%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

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    1.3%
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  1. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    To be honest, this ''darksaber can cut through anything, almost anything, it cannot cut through pure beskar'' thing needs to be criticized a little bit. I mean, everyone watched Episode III Revenge of the Sith right?

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    So instead of a pure beskar spear, they could also use an electrostaff. And I am pretty sure, electrostaffs are far cheaper to buy in comparison with pure beskar.

    Beskar has more spiritual importance and meaning for the mandalorians, that I would agree. But electrostaffs can basically do the same thing against the lightsabers.

    Against Gideon, or Ahsoka, electrostaff could do the same work.

    But I am not sure about the Dark Troopers, electrostaff's electricity might not work on them since they are very tough, beskar spear was hard enough to penetrate their armor.

    And there is also these guys;

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    I don't think their weapons are beskar, it's more like a different type of electrostaff, and even random FO troopers had these type of weapons;

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    Yeah, it's because of Darksaber, and people said Sidious was the actual owner of the Darksaber at some point, and I explained why Sidious was never the true owner of that blade.
     
  2. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    So what? They had a beskar spear, not an electrostaff. And beskar armor. The armor being arguably the most important thing.
     
  3. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    The armor is the more important part. We haven’t seen an equivalent to an electrostaff in armor form.

    It looks like the Mandalorian armor is designed specifically so Mandalorians can fight against Jedi and hold their own. The armor is designed to defend against the Jedi’s greatest strengths. Beskar is mostly lightsaber proof, removing the Jedi’s most dangerous weapon. The jet packs let them keep their distance. The flame thrower, cables, and other rockets / blasters also give options for fighting Jedi.



    Why was Sidious never the true owner of the Dark Saber? He beat Maul? But it appears Sidious left the dark saber when he captured maul. He didn’t want it.
     
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  4. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Beskar armor is'nt pure Beskar, as evidenced by the fact that lightsabers can (and do, all the time) cut through it.

    It's probobly very hard to forge something out of pure beskar anyway, let alone something like armor which needs to be a certain degree of flexiable. I mean, pure beskar armor might theoretically exist, but it's probobly about as common as Valyrian steel armor.

    Beskar is just Mandalorian Iron, though, and that being capable of resisting lightsabers has always been the case.

    The TFA baton is probobly and electroweapon, while I think the praetorians weapons are vibroswords/axes/staves.

    I think the fact that he left it is the reason; he never claimed it, so Maul was able to just pick it up again after he escaped and go back to using it without an issue (though it's entirely possible the Mandalorians themselves never considered his claim to the weapon legit).

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  5. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Din Djarin’s beskar armor was very clearly resistant to the darksaber, though. So it looks like his armor is pure beskar.
     
  6. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Wasn't his armour forged from his payment from Chapter 1? If so, it was said to be pure beskar.
     
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  7. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    https://boards.theforce.net/threads...oilers-allowed.50055279/page-69#post-57114885
     
  8. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Yes. And it resists the darksaber. So it’s pure beskar. From his helmet to his vambraces. The whole set is pure!
     
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  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    It must suck to have non pure Beskar
     
  10. The Shadow Emperor

    The Shadow Emperor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The scores of Mandalorians who died to blaster shots to their armor in TCW would likely agree. :p
     
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  11. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Freaking Saxson didn’t have pure Beskar
     
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  12. RetropME

    RetropME Jedi Master star 4

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    Yup... Mando's armor is like the GFFA equivalent of Mithril it seems. Perhaps it was more common in the Old/High Republic eras but by the time of the films, pure Beskar seems to be incredibly rare.
     
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  13. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I call it pure plot armor
     
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  14. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    That would make passing it down generation to generation more important.
     
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  15. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    genu-eyen
     
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  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I do think Beskar is a bit to strong
     
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  17. MandoFan

    MandoFan Jedi Padawan

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    At 10 years old, I missed opening weekend for Star Wars in 1977 due to illness. My younger brother got to go and came home telling me about the Jetezine and light sabers and Darth Vader, so he got it partly right. But The Mandalorian has been, for me, the best Star Wars since Return of the Jedi. It has been great story telling about great characters by great story tellers. It captures the essence of the OT and carries it forward in a way that makes sense for the story the OT told.

    A lot of the most popular "entertainment" lately has gotten very dark. I don't understand how darkness is entertaining. Darkness is sad and depressing, not fun. After an ugly divorce 8 years ago, the last thing I want from my entertainment is darkness. Instead of darkness, The Mandalorian restores my hope. Something I think the world desperately needs.
     
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  18. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    And add extra incentive for duels and battles between clans; to hoard or reclaim Beskar armor in higher purity than your rivals, ironically inviting greater conflict and attacks because you’re trying to o get the best defensive armor you can.
     
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  19. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    that sounds right. But in times of greatest external danger it also means the weaker would fall in line behind the best amoroured.

    In an ideal Mandalor the best warriors would have the best armor. The strongest most affluent families would also be the best greatest warriors. It’s doesn’t need to be as cut throat as the Sith. There is room for sharing and betterment of all Mandalorians. Especially when they have an external foe like the Jedi or Empire to work against together.

    When different families or different clans fight against each other it weakened all of Mandalor. In fighting is not the way.
     
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  20. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Looking at the ease with which The Client was able to come up with a significant quantity of beskar, I actually theorize that the Empire just hoarded all the beskar they took from the Mandalorians, and has been keeping it in large quantities in storage. It would make perfect sense narratively for the Empire to do so.
     
  21. Blueandwhite

    Blueandwhite Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    It could also be an indicator of just how valuable the Child was as an asset. The Client was willing to do pretty much anything to reacquire Grogu who may in fact be a key genetic resource for reviving Palpatine. While the Empire may have a decent amount of beskar in storage, I suspect it is still in limited supply even for the Empire.
     
  22. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Ok but why? It's an alloy and if it was much more common 50 years ago, it must have gone somewhere.
    Alloys don't just disappear, let alone this alloy that is almost indestructible practically.
    So if anyone has it, it's the Empire since it sacked Mandalore over and over again.
     
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  23. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    why? Because it has always been rare. It just that the empire has a stock pile of it during the Mandalorian, and capturing Baby yoda is worth the price.
     
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  24. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Well the argument was that it wasn't as rare in the past. That's what people said. I am not an expert in Beskar quantities myself :p
     
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  25. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I mean, aside from the Empire stealing it I could just be that the natural deposites are running dry (and it might even have been not that common an ore to begin with)

    That's actually a good point, and one I had forgotten and taken for granted.

    I mean, Bo-Katan tanks a bunch of point-blank blaster shots from Gideon and Sabine survives a headshot in Rebels at one point without even a bruise, so it probobly does'nt suck as much as you think.

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    Pictured; Palpatine chillin with his horde of pure Beskar.

    (and again man, sorry for the other day).

    The peaple trying to kill Din probobly agree with you...

    That nobody saw the duel is also a good point.
     
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