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Reads all that has been shared. *Couldn't be happier at this moment *

Chuckles happily at Uzuriel @darthbernael

 

I think we both have very unique perspectives. My tribe, The Disciples of the Whills were nearly erased from existance because no one answered the call to help us, no Jedi or Grey came to warn that our destruction was imminent. Oh but they warned the Rebels.

You’re experience from what you have divulged is in direct contrast, and highlights the negative effects of the involvement of Force Users such as the Jedi and Sith. In this way we are on opposite sides of the same coin, I lamenting no one came to help us, and you experiencing the torment from those who helped but also hunted you.

What we both share even if we differ on this point is what you so eloquently said, “we survived the purges.”
The Deathstar nearly ended my tribe, and it is for that reason I am compelled to help those facing such a threat, whither it be the Starforge, A New Death Star, Starkiller Base, Planet Destroying Star Destroyers, and any weapon that would annihlate a people. I may achieve little in trying to stop such monstrosities, but I want the victims of such Technological Terrors to say someone came, someone tried to warn them, and someone endeavored to save them. Make no mistake, I do not have a savior complex. I just want no one to feel what I have felt, like no one cared when my people were vaporized.

 

I shall clarify but what I mean by being called into conflicts. When something is going to massively change the amount of lifeforms in the Force, like a Deathstar or an Armada bent on destruction, The Force can call Jedi, Grey Jedi and Sith to intervene and prevent if possible the massive loss of life. For we remeber, it is a Living Force, and when Alderaan was destroyed Obi-Wan felt the massive loss of souls, “I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened” (Obi-Wan, ANH)

 

Jedha.. my home, torm apart by the Techonological Terror. In a moment the High Priest and most of my brothers were gone, become one with the Living Force. I know not what to feel, jubikance that they are now fully enlightened and one with that which they worshipped, or mournful that I am the last Disciple, that their traditions only survive in me and will die with me.

They have crosses into the final frontier, the mystery that humbles the living, but divulges all to the dead or should I say thosw on the other side of living. My brothers were sent by a green beam to be with the Jedi and other Force Users who have achieved immortality. My feelings of loneliness I mist abude, for my turn will come oneday, when I shall join them.

My contempt for the Empire and what they did to Jedha, my hime, does such hate benefit my path? I feel Bogan’s breath in it, but again I must confess that what the Death Star did was hasten my brothers to their Maker, in that I feel Ashla.

Thus I am resolved to feel both, Hate and Thanks, for the Force is One, and what is done, is done.

 

Narancia's Journey part 1 of 3


IC: Narancia the Jensaarai

After hearing Nkri's final statements on the matter Narancia politely excused himself from the discussion and headed to his ship the A-24 Sleuth.



The words of his fellow Grey Jedi echoed throughout the Jensaarai's thoughts as if they were playing on loop.

The conversation Narancia had weighed heavily on his mind, he needed to go back to his home planet.

Was this the life of a grey Jedi to either hide oneself in isolation or make himself known and be hunted by dark-sider and light-siders alike?

Narancia pondered this as he punched in the hyperspace coordinates and he took his ship into a hyperdrive. It would take time for Naranci to arrive home so he took off his religious armor and took a rest.

3 hours later

The tell-tale signs of his ship's monitor showed that Narancia had arrived at his destination of Susevfi.



Narancia was happy that the majority of the planet was nothing but plains and fungal forests. Ever since the end of the Imperial occupation of the planet, the Jensaarai relocated but their biggest secret had remained untouched by the empire. That secret is going to help Narancia find answers on the force and the purpose of being a Grey Jedi.

Narancia had landed at the new hideout of the Jensaarai, it used to be a hideout for the Invid pirates but after the Jensaarai's encounter with Luke Skywalker..... Well, let's just say that the Invid pirates no longer exist.


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Narancia's presence had not gone unnoticed, a figure had come out to greet him. Narancia respected this man very much as it was the combat-master of the Jensaarai; Shalidor.

"Ah, Narancia. What brings you home?"

"I have great conflict within me master Shalidor....I need answers. I need to use the chamber. Is anyone using it?"

"No, but you know the drill Narancia, as a roaming Jensaarai defender the only time you are permitted home is when you bring back an artifact. So did you bring one?"

"Of course."

Narancia handed over a Holocron he had found one of his adventures. Shalidor took it and escorted Narancia to the chamber.



The room of spirit and time is an extra dimension sustained entirely through both the living and cosmic force. One can input data on any force-sensitive no matter the time and continuity and the time chamber will produce a simulation so perfect that it captures everything about the subject, all the way down to their favorite food.

"You haven't been here in a while Narancia, so I'm gonna start you off on tier 5."

Narancia nodded.

"I'm gonna have you run the gauntlet, you have a choice between these 4 opponents; Padawan Kenobi, Jedi master Bultar Swan, Jedi master Aayla Secura, and finally Darth Wredd. Which one?"

"Darth Wredd."

A portal opened and a masked man stepped through the portal. Narancia could feel the air change with this dark figure's presence.



Such hatred, such pain.

Narancia thought to himself as he looked upon the man. The aura this man radiated through the force was painful to even feel. It was like burning oneself on the stove.

"You....pity me?"

A mechanical voice hissed.

" I do."

"Then you will die."

Wredd Ignited his lightsaber and rushed at Narancia who responded in kind. Their lightsabers met, Shalidor could feel the shockwave of their blows from within his booth. Narancia disengaged from the blade lock and entered a modified Shii-Cho stance. Darth Wredd cocked his head to the side.

"You a Jedi?"

"No, a Jensaarai."

"Never heard of them. But I can feel the hatred you harbor for the sith deep inside. Did we kill someone important to you?"

Narancia's grip tightened on his lightsaber.

"Ah, let me guess was it your father, or was it a sibling?"

Narancia remained still, his mind was panicking but he knew what Wredd was trying to do. Dun moch a common technique among the Sith.

"It's your mother, isn't it?"

Alarm bells had rung in Narancia's head.

"Hahahahaha! Dear old mommy kicked the dust, didn't she? I bet she died in a pathetic and humiliating fashion. I hope I was there to commit the deed."

Anger boiled over Narancia's mind he charged at the Sith. Narancia attacked the Wredd with wide sweeping power attacks.

Wredd weathered the storm of Narancia's anger meeting the power of Narancia's anger with his own will but that was all that he could do. Until Narancia struck a nasty blow on the Sith's face, striking him across the eye.

"Aggghhh!"

Darth Wredd fell onto the floor.

Yield Sith! You are beaten!

"I'll never yield to a line straddler like you!!"

"What?"

"Do you think I couldn't feel where your allegiances lie? You're a despicable centralist, an uncommitted fool."

Wredd spits on the floor and continues on his tirade.

"A Grey Jedi, pathetic!"

"Watch your tongue! We are the people of the force and the people of balance. While you Sith are beings of corruption who twist Bogan and give it a bad name."

Wredd clenches his fist, drawing on all the pain and all the hatred he feels at this very moment, and expels it in a telekinetic blast. Narancia countered easily with his force barrier but not before he was flung back a few inches.

Wredd leaped at Narancia attacking in a randomized barrage of lightsaber and physical strikes. Narancia could see however that Wredd's attacks were of inconsistent quality. Any grapples that Wredd attempted were easily dodged and any lightsaber strikes he swung were just easily batted away. Wredd was a textbook aggressive Niman specialist but of mediocore quality.

"Are you really a Sith?"

Wredd gave a caveman-like screech and lunged at Narancia...... and what followed was a classic Cho mai attack.





Wredd sat on the floor kneeling as if he were expecting mercy but Narancia would give him none and with a single thrust to the heart he ended the simulation.

Shalidor came out of his booth.

"I sensed much anger in you during your fight. You handled it well, letting it fuel your actions but not letting it overtake you as it did with the sith."

Narancia bowed deeply, "thank you master Shalidor, when can I fight again?"

"Soon but not now, your anger and your confusion is still there. Tell me what troubles you so?"

"Is it true, that being a Grey Jedi is a path of being ostracized and hunted, will the force wars ever stop? If not then what's the point of being force-sensitive it's like we're meant to fight forever with no end."

Shalidor looked at Narancia, studying him closely, "Do you think the force is a curse?"

Narancia looked down for a moment and shook his head, "I don't know, maybe it is."

Shalidor nodded at this. "I understand what you're feeling young one and I will help you. But for now, study and train, meditate on these thoughts, I'm interested in the answer you come up with."

 

@Narancia

You had me at the hyperbolic Time chamber! Fascinating journey. I'm here for the rest of it.

 

"I understood that reference."

 

Welcome once again @Ava G. I hope you have been well, stay awhile. Share, participate or simply spectate. Your company is appreciated in whatever capacity you wish to engage.

 

@Ava G. Good to see you here in this place.

 

Thank you!

~spectates for now~

 

Narancia's Journey part 2 of 3: The tale of the covenant and the dangers of Ashla.

Narancia poured himself into his studies, hungrily absorbing knowledge from the Jensaarai temple library.





Shalidor watched from afar, concerned about the lack of passion within the child at this point. Indeed the Jensaarai defender had become a shut-in, barley participating in the activities that he fancied, deeply concerning.

Shalidor approached the young Jensaarai and placed a hand upon Narancia's shoulder, "What have you been studying?"

Narancia didn't look up from the texts too focused on his studies, "The Jedi covenant of the old republic. But I can barely find anything on it."
Narancia finally looked up from his texts at his master, "Why don't we have a Jensaarai covenant? We could anticipate threats and take them out beforehand."

Shalidor shook his head it was as he feared, Ashla had begun to seduce Narancia, "No. That is a recipe for disaster."
"Why? What's the harm in it?"

"Have you ever heard of Lucian Draay the driven?"


"No.....I am not familiar with that figure."


"I'm not surprised, the Jedi expunged him from their record books thousands of years ago."


"Why? What did he do?"


"Lucien Draay was the offspring of the famed Jedi knight Barrison Dray and Jedi master Krynda Draay, a half-Miralukan." Narancia turned completely to his master enraptured in this tale. "You see as a half-Miralukan, Krynda had a talent for farsight, an ability that allows force sensitives to foresee the future but she couldn't foresee her husband's death in the Great Sith War. Devastated by her lover's passing and her failure to foresee it, she secretly created the organization you speak of. Their goal, to predict the return of the sith and prevent it."

"Where did Lucien come into play?"

Shalidor chuckled, "Patience my dear boy, I am getting there. Now, where was I......Ah yes, Krynda had a son named Lucien who was 25% Miralukan but possessed no talent for the ability once so ever. So as a result Krynda neglected her son, Lucien starved for the attention of his mother became the enforcer and leader of the covenant. Decades went by until the group received an alarming vision where they saw a figure in red armor and equipped with a red lightsaber standing over their corpses. The seers could tell that the person that would become the Sith had the following criteria;

1. They weren't true sith....yet
2. They were a member of the Jedi order
3. They would dawn a red lightsaber and red armor of some kind.

So Narancia, I want you to guess what conclusion they came to."

"Did they monitor for the Darksiders among them?"

No, they butchered all padawans they could get their hands. Leaving but one Lucien Draay's own padawan Zayne Carrick.


"By the force!"


"Yes, my dear boy, and it was only with the help of Zayne Carrick did they discover the Darksider among them. A man named Haazen I think. What happened from that point onward is shrouded in mystery but that event left Lucien blinded and maimed, it was only then that he realized his full potential and acquire the ability of farsight."


"Wow. I didn't know....But at least they found the Darksider among them, right? So it wasn't totally for nothing."

"No, they found Haazen, the dark Jedi. But they missed Revan, Malak, Traya, all kinds of Jedi that would fall to the dark side and become Sith because of the Mandalorian Wars."

"So.....It was all for nothing then."

"Yes, attempting to predict the future is fruitless and a key aspect of deep immersion of Ashla. Only the Jedi are arrogant enough to think otherwise. Ashla is just as dangerous as Bogan, don't ever forget that. In fact, I want you to take a break from studying and I want you to take your armor and run around Susevfi for a bit, have some fun!"

Narancia was confused, "but how will this help me?"

"One must not forget their passions. You are surrounded by the energies of Ashla and very little Bogan right now, you are forgetting to live. So go outside, have fun in the capital city, and when you come back I will have you do homework and put you in the chamber, I think you'll finally have your answer after what I have planned."

Narancia bowed and headed to the bedding chambers of the temple stripping off his armor and heading outside into the wilds of Susefvi.

 

@Narancia

A most intriguing tale you are sharing with us. I am captivated by the narrative, despite, perhaps unsurprisingly, seeing things a bit differently.

I cannot say this proves that Ashla is in any way dangerous, aside from it being Shalidor’s opinion, but rather that darkness did enter into Krynda’s heart , who was unable to come to terms with the loss of her husband in a healthy manner and in turn opened the door to a dark series of events. Like neglecting her own son.

The creation of a ‘minority report’, however well intentioned, is indeed dangerous, even unethical, as it does not reveal things beyond a certain moment and the viewer will always draw erroneous conclusions, inherently making judgements based on ‘partial knowledge’. Intent is also never revealed through these means.

Indeed, we only have the present. The past cannot be changed and the future is fluid. As illustrated in this tale, even if certain future events are set in stone, it is not for us to know, and we should not be both blind and arrogant to assume so.

I would seriously warn Shalidor against polar inversion and admonish him to clear himself of bias, and recognize transition. Ashla is the Light and Bogan is Darkness, these are constant as well as bookends to the great gamut of the Force.

There are things such as healthy curiosity and perilous obsession. I applaud Shalidor for recommending a healthy balance between study and recreation. This is good.

One day perhaps, should he agree to it, I’d enjoy a discourse with him regarding these perceived ‘Dangers of Ashla’. I dare say we might both learn a thing or two.

Now, I must patiently wait for part three of this most excellent tale.

The Force is strong with the Jensaarai. The Force is One.

 

I mentioned in another thread that I didn't see any "light side" or "dark side" powers, just a power and the individuals mindset when using it. I'd agree that "light side" can be just as dangerous as bad as "dark side" at times. Arrogance is probably the biggest thing. The Sith lived and thrived for centuries right under the Jedi's nose. Even when it was known what was happening, Obi-Wan turned to Chancellor Palpatine and said, "Chancellor, Sith Lords are our specialty!" Only to promptly have his butt handed to him. Arrogance can make one sloppy and careless.

The leaders say "our way is the only way." And intimate that if you don't follow their way you're lost. Then, if a follower finds one thing that belies that edict, they either find themselves hiding (and possibly researching more dangerous things) or assuming themselves lost.

Edit: One thing I like about this place is everyone is a student. I daresay even Polmath is a student.

 

@DarthIshyZ

Indeed, a student and happily so.

I would at some point, also like to sit with you, so we can hope to narrow down our terms and meanings, for the benefit of teaching them accurately. When we say, the Force is One, we understand that it is all inclusive, of both light and dark and everything in between- because all tendencies spring from the life which creates them. Therefore, I'm personally not inclined to teach the 'there is no * light or dark *' tenet, because there simply is. I do agree that intent is everything and these intents have polarities. We use light or dark to express these ideas, for they are not mutually exclusive, but part of the greater whole. So our hindrance to greater clarity could be merely 'semantic', yet still, even this is critical when imparting knowledge.

The greater wisdom here is not necessarily to be of the same opinion, but to have equal respect for a different one.

 

Ngl that might be a hard thing to do, Shalidor rarely leaves Susevfi unless it's for an important reason like rescuing a fellow Jensaarai but Narancia might be able to convince him to come to the chambers as Narancia is one of his favorites. But beware Shalidor is much less agreeable than Narancia.

Move over Narancia!

But master Shalidor we have to wait until my Journey series is over, this disrupts the continuity of the entries.

Narancia come on this is an internet forum, not a comic series so just relax, I got this, just let ole' Shalidor handle this. I am like 30 years your superior.

Master, we are literally the same rank, you just have the title of combat master, I call you master because you're like an uncle to me.

Who trained you on how to use a lightsaber?

*sighs* You did master.

Who has beaten you 40 times in sparring matches?

Are you really doing this right now master?

Yes



Just let an old man have his way will ya?

If you say so, master.


Good now *ahem* @greyjedi125 Ashla may be the light but just like the Sun, it can be harmful. The Jedi assume that compassion is an automatic trait of the light side but as we can see with individuals like Kyp Durron, Mace Windu, Shaak Ti, and the Jedi council masters from Kotor 2. Compassion is a trait of nature that not everybody has, and if you are confused as to why Shaak ti is on this list here is my evidence;


-Power of the Jedi sourcebook

Ashla is the energy of order while Bogan is the energy of chaos. Ashla is morality and Bogan is humanity. Ashla is control while Bogan is freedom, many people feel that it's the other way around due to the Sith. But much like the Jedi and Ashla, the Sith philosophy is a perversion of Bogan. So as a result, Ashla and Bogan are not inherently good or evil, they are metaphysical philosophical names that we give the preternatural energy that is the force.

@DarthIshyZ

I agree with your assessment wholeheartedly and so would master Shalidor! But I don't know about the abilities part. I'm not saying I disagree I just don't know for sure. Like the powers themselves have no inherent classifications as Palpatine is able to use force healing a "Jedi technique," not to mention that both Plo Koon Luke Skywalker, Kyle Katarn and Jaden Korr have used force lightning but if they were immersed in different "branches" of the force their effectiveness would differ wouldn't they? So I don't know. I'll have to ask Shalidor about this.


So yeah that's how those two will interact with this board once I'm finished with my final part. It's probably gonna be long though probably the length of the first entry may be more because there is so much I want to cover in Narancia's Journey. Now that I think about it, maybe I should change my name because this will get confusing lol.

 

Thank you for your confidence in me. I must say, though, that I have very little interest in "narrowing down" terms. The only rules, IMO, should be: 1. Learn more and 2. Debate, but part as friends. Other than that, I feel that any narrowing would confuse and alienate people. As @Kato Sai said, there's dozens of Grey beliefs. Narrowing and defining would only alienate those that we can learn from.

That being said, I would love to follow my own rules and debate the same.

 

And there it is, our quick sit down. I couldn't agree more my friend. I can see the benefit of this position as well. I think my beard is happy at the moment. *chuckles jovially*

It is my hope that many more are encouraged to visit us and feel comfortable enough to share, and are open to consider new ideas. Myself included. Thanks again.

The Force is One.


EDIT:

@Narancia

Apologies, I read the above content out of order.

The above writing on Shaak Ti, I found intriguing, but it is but a single source, a jedi source at that, meaning, it has inherent biases. Again, though interesting, I would look deeper for myself before accepting their narrative as final.

I have yet to enter into discourse about 'good and evil' and have only been speaking about Light and Dark. I see more instances of polar reversion in regards to Ashla and Bogan here. It isn't the first time I encounter this, but I have yet to find the best way to address this topic and have decided to wait until I do, and simply resolve to state that I'm personally not fully in agreement, though I can see where it stems from. A minor point? Perhaps.

Indeed, If you would have me, I wouldn't mind visiting Master Shalidor in a place of his choosing. Please let me know what his favorite tea or drink might be, and we can have ourselves a memorable discourse.

Narancia, your continued participation is a gift. If there is anything you should need from us, all you have to do is ask.

*bows*

The Force is One.

 

@Kato Sai and @Narancia, if you encountered a "Grey" that believed in human experimentation, what would you say?

 

Polmath nods at Uzuriel and equally enjoys all that transpires in the grove, then chuckles to himself as he is suddenly hit by inspiration.

I've been thinking of how best to represent/exemplify the idea of transitioning: when too much of something good has a bad result. For example; when medicine that is good is over used, (if one overdoses), it has a bad result. Technically, it is not the (good) medicine that is bad, but rather the over application of it. This theme has been mentioned previously ( @Narancia mention of the Sun being harmful prompted this line of thought ), but I needed a way to represent it with 'practical visualization' that would lead to clear understanding ( as a living principle we have all experienced). I will delve more into this, but there is some business I must attend to ( I must be off to work, lol ). I shall return, so please do carry on.

 

Shalidor should register.

 

By the way, I addressed that question was addressed to those two, but I'd like other voices, too.
@darthbernael
@Adalia-Durron
@clone commander bossk
And even @greyjedi125

 

No way, that just isn't right.