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Rogue One The Official "List Your Complaints about Rogue One" Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by BretHart, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I really like the realism of there being varied force beliefs, orders, practices, etc. Makes the world that much more interesting.
     
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  2. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm thankful that they didn't make Chirrut a Jedi for the same reason they didn't make Lyra Erso a Jedi (which was the original idea). Because Rogue One isn't a story about the Jedi. And honestly if they had just made Chirrut a Jedi, I don't think he would be as interesting.
     
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  3. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    Here's a minor nitpick that I have... Admiral Raddus died off-screen. It doesn't bother me too much, but I just kinda wish that we had actually seen his death instead of it having to be confirmed behind-the-scenes.
     
  4. Intergalactic Lawman

    Intergalactic Lawman Jedi Knight star 3

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    This thread should not have even reached 2 pages! :p
     
  5. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Raddus isn't dead. Raddus is life.
     
  6. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Don't worry. 90% of it is people defending Rogue One from criticism. Which is completely outside the bounds of the thread. But Rogue One is so good that the criticisms of it can't sustain a thread for very long. So the thread needed help from the movie's fans. ;)
     
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  7. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    @EHT and I are terrible at modding this particular thread. :p
     
  8. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    The example used to illustrate the concept of "conflict of interest" in this year's edition of the Oxford English dictionary is "@TCF-1138 and @EHT moderating a thread about criticisms of Rogue One."
     
  9. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  10. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    They say that if it's a quiet night, sometimes, when you look up at the stars, if you listen carefully, you can hear a distant voice, defiantly calling out, "I say we fight!"
     
  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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  12. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    AWESOME until the ending. The same goes for Solo.
     
  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I agree. Awesome until the ending when it became even awesomer.
     
  14. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Cool. But I meant the ending for both were too fast or confusing.
     
  15. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Just messing with you. But now that you elaborated on it, what was “too fast” or “confusing” about the ending of Rogue One?
     
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  16. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Vader should've killed those Rebel troopers a lot, lot slower, plus he could've shouted "I want that disk, it contains the plans for the Death Star!"
     
  17. BlueYogurt

    BlueYogurt Jedi Master star 4

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    His death was better off screen, trust me. Without going into too much detail, Palpatine had calamari marinara for dinner that night.
     
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  18. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    Ah, so that's why Palpatine didn't appear in A New Hope... Raddus had his revenge. [face_sick]
     
  19. ZodaEX

    ZodaEX Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm so disappointed in this Rogue One film that Lucasfilm shot it on digital video instead of real film. In 8 years they'll be able to remaster episodes 7-9 to 8k resolution, but Rogue One will forever be stuck in only 4k. :(
     
  20. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Who cares, it looks fantastic.
     
  21. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's something you 100% don't have to worry about.

    How good a film looks has little to do with resolution. Steve Yedlin, coincidentally the cinematographer of The Last Jedi, made a really interesting video where he compared the perceived clarity and sharpness of different cameras, ranging from 3K digital cameras to 65mm film scanned at (I believe) 12K, and found little to no difference between them. Digital footage can be upscaled just as well as film, as film -- while not limited by pixels -- loses its clarity and sharpness at high definition scans, since the grain is also enlargened when upscaled.

    2K, 4K, 8K; it's all rather unimportant. Most movies are still mastered in 2K (between 1,920 and 2,048 pixels horizontal resolution), and later upscaled to twice that, i.e. 4K (3,840 pixels wide in the UHD format, or 4,096 pixels in DCI 4K), for presentation, regardless of how it was originally captured, be it 2K digital, 6K digital, or 35mm film.

    And with AI upscaling getting better and better all the time, any issue with this will be gone in a few years.

    As for home releases, dynamic range, clarity, sharpness and color reproduction is, again, a lot more interesting than the amount of pixels. Paradoxically, higher resolutions can render an image less sharp than the other way around, as we're talking a lot more compression if you still want manageable filesizes.
     
  22. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
     
  23. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    This is because we are also getting to the limits of where human vision can tell a difference. I read an article that said 8K is the limit, unless the screen is gigantic.
     
  24. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'd say 4K is the limit without pixel peeping, honestly. After that, it's a matter of compression, not resolution.
    Yedlin goes even further and says that the last important step in pure resolution was from SD to HD.
     
  25. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    You forgot yes.