ST The Official "List Your Complaints About TFA" Discussion Thread

Surely there are aspects of said backstory that will be explored in the next chapter?

 

Sure, im not even doubt that Luke's, Rey's and Kylo's backstories will be told. In the next episode.

 

Logged in for the first time in years just to say

Luke shows up in the LAST SCENE with NO DIALOGUE????????? We deserve a little more than this.
For reasons no one appears completely sure of... the galaxy's greatest hero went into hiding for years when the **** hit the fan and he has nothing to say????

Who was Snoke? Literally not a word of his origins. He's evil and Ben likes him. That's it.

It feels like the writers left the audience's most important questions hanging because they couldn't confidently answer them and thought "hey sequel guys this is your problem now!"

Great movie overall but I'm extremely frustrated.

 

No backstory
The backstory that was given
No Luke
divorce
Han death
Mary Rey

 

To be fair. When hardly knew anything about palpatine until ROTJ and even then we had to wait until the prequels to see his origins. It would be too much for one film to explain it all.

 

As much as JJ won't be directing VIII and IX, I'm sure there have been discussions with R Johnson and C. Trevorrow about where aspects of the back story and where it's going. There was lot to cover in this film and IMO they have laid a great foundation for the rest of the trilogy.

 

Unfortunate, I think J.J. spent too much time on "the island" and doesn't understand while too much exposition is overload, not enough is annoying. I still don't understand the Lost finale, and he likes his mysteries, but he's horrible at explaining things to make sense to anyone else.

 

Where to start so much to dislike.

1: Appalling jumbled mess of a screenplay.
2: Plot all over the place. Character motivations were laughable/childike.
3: Weak actors except for OT & Daisy Ridley, Max Von Sydow. Everyone else was not credible or given no material to work with.
4: Finn was annoying & a bumbling clown more than anything.
5: Villains were very weak & feeble. Kylo, Snoke & Hux were weak & unconvincing.
6: Poor John Williams musical themes. Only the OT themes reused briefly were memorable. New villain theme is really bad & low key.
7: Poor jumpy editing in places.
8: Cinematography was very basic/mundane.
9: Makeup FX were very low budget & looked very cheap.
10: Direction was feeble & bland.
11: Film felt very empty & lifeless unless it contained any OT characters.
12: George Lucas franchise aware presence was missing everywhere.
13: Movie felt forced & designed to please a very young audience only. Nothing much for adults to enjoy.
14: Visual Effects were basic & unmemorable.
15: No tension/drama/surprise it all felt so artificial.
16: Mystery box concept is empty no big surprises level of secrecy was over the top for the limited content onscreen.

What did I like:
1: Luke Skywalker grand entrance.
2: Han + Chewie scenes together.
3: Rey intro & some of her moments.
4: Captain Phasma was cool & mysterious. Could be the new Boba Fett character if given more screentime.
5: The running time passed quickly due to pace being so rapid to hide all the numerous basic story issues & overall weakness.

 

Jesus wept....

 

Here's my complaints they are :

Oh yes I have zero complaints - I loved it & can't wait for part 8 .

 

1. JJ Abrams

 

The "Practical effects"! backfired for you huh?

 

Makeup FX where did I mention practical FX?

 

Didn't think I'd ever miss George Lucas, but god damn you could tell his brilliant imagination wasn't part of this. Every single planet brought nothing new at all, they were exactly like the planets from the originals, except you know, they're *completely* different planets. In the prequels we got Naboo, Coruscant, Utapau, Geonosis, Kamino... Which were all completely different from anything we saw in the originals. Props to Lucas for trying to do something different, even if it didn't work out in the end. Rian Johnson, don't let me down with the same planets again...

 

You mentioned visual effects, and all the effects talk was about practical effects, the visual effects they primarily used are practical.

 

I just realized... This is the first movie without a "Darth". Weird. Not sure how I feel about that.

 

The way the mountain collapsed when rey sneezed that was just dumb

 

Most of the visual effects were CG not practical FX you do not understand the simple difference. Practical effects are small things like onset explosions, debris, smoke, etc etc

I did not mention those as they were passable no more no less nothing to say about them. Most of the film was CG just like the prequels only major difference was more practical sets not many greenscreen sets like the prequels used mainly greenscreen virtual sets. Here they used mainly real set pieces with less virtual greenscreen work.

 

What does "Mary Sue" even mean

 

I don't even think Kasdan/Abrams know who Snoke is. He's something Disney have put in as an overarching villain and been told to leave for VIII and IX.

 

The use of natural light and location shooting made a huge difference for me compared to the synthetic vistas of the PT

 

I was thinking the same thing

 

One wonders where to begin. I shall just copy and paste a litany of complaints I wrote in a PM with GuardianSoulBlade yesterday.

The pacing felt very unlike Star Wars, although it is hard to describe exactly how. More concretely is the fact that a) Han died and b) his death scene was so meek and pathetic. Very little has been explained about what happened in the thirty year gap, and what has happened is all rather depressing. They have recycled the 'build a planet-busting superweapon and then destroy it' plot one too many times; it has become repetitive. C-3PO just looked fake; like he was made out of plastic. I found the villains uninspired and unintimidating. I have no idea who this Snoke guy is, from where he came, nor why I should care. As for the heroes, I am still not sure who Rey is nor why in the Galaxy I should care about what happens to her. Too much is left unexplained by the cliffhanger ending. The lightsabre duel was lacklustre.

 

I agree 100% that's one of the only things they got right. Shame no proper movie to film in these locations though...

 

For me it was the following;

Where where the original alien beings? Would it have killed them to throw in a twilek or a rodian into Maz's castle scene? Its like a whole new universe has been created with strange new beings. Its turned into a Star Trek spinoff.

The music score wasnt up to scratch. Didnt feel like Star Wars.

Lightsaber effects where dull. I agree Rens saber might sound different but Anakins saber sounded different it didnt have the classic ignition sound.

Is Maz dead? No explanation there.

Luke could of atleast said something. He was in there for about 20 seconds, we waitted a long fricken time to see him again. Now we wait 2 more years bloody hell...

Hans death was overkill and no recognition or mourning what so ever of a great character.

Rey using the force so quickly, I dont buy it.

The resistance felt like a small band of fighters, where are the big ships where are the others? Its like a group of 15 people are now the saviours of the galaxy.

Snoke didnt do it for me, why wasnt he in a cape or something? He looked like the mummy. Could of used a puppet there the cgi was too easy to spot..

I did enjoy the movie but it felt like a detachment from what a Star Wars movie is.

 

It's a character without flaws, always at the center of attention and who can do anything better than anyone. A male version is a Mary Stu.