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Lit The Official TARKIN by James Luceno Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sable_Hart, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm concerned that the defunct-EU's inclusionist tendencies are going to worm their way into the new Story Group canon. I mean, I know Palpatine is one of the most important Star Wars characters and therefore exposure is inevitable, but was a first name really necessary? Especially with it being a literal one-off name-drop that served absolutely no purpose other than to seemingly say "LOOK GUYS, HE'S GOT A FIRST NAME."

    Palpatine's high profile nature means the sacrifice of some of his '80s enigma, but the character really does work best when we don't know everything about him. There's a reason the OT just referred to him as "The Emperor." It's ominous, powerful, conveys a sense of grandiosity and status. Even with the publicity of his family name in the PT, the characters often referred to him as Chancellor. We don't need to become too familiar with Darth Sidious.
     
  2. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    No, he is.... the Emperor. What more does anyone need?
     
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  3. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly, Jedi Ben

     
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  4. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Been on that wagon since 1999
     
  5. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah. You don't want to get too familiar. Might just find yourself shivved in the shower.


    Sorry. Sorry.
     
  6. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Agreed. If anything, we should be thanking Lucas for omitting the name instead of mocking him for creating it.
     
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  7. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    Perhaps. But is it customary to shower before or after one takes a sheev?
     
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Anyway, thanks to Amazon I can now say the following without reservation:

    ARS DANGOR!!!!!!!!

    Not gonna treat the Amazon preview as a blank check though. Make sure to verify whatever you folks post is on Amazon. :)
     
  9. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't think this'll go away no matter how many showers you take.
     
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  10. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    It's bullsheev of a permanent sort, yes.
     
  11. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Breaking: Zeta unhappy
     
  12. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    No one can blame him for wearing his heart on his sheev.
     
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  13. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    When it comes down to it, Palpatine should be known like a similar Dark Lord: He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?

    Well, in that case, Jason Isaacs (The Inquisitor) already has experience being a character working for one Dark Lord. Why not another? :p
     
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  14. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Yularen is still an ISB Colonel.

    Kren Blista-Vanee has a speaking role.
     
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  15. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I know it's unkind, but this made me laugh so hard. And then the follow-up made me laugh even harder.

    At any rate, Palpatine will always be Frank to me.
     
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  16. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, let me put it this way, I will take the implied name of Cosinga over that uninspired nonsense, and I still haven't even read Darth Plagueis yet.
     
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  17. H-BOMB

    H-BOMB Jedi Master star 3

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    Ew gross why. Could have done much better.
     
  18. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That being said, guys, regardless the name of Palpatine... the book looks great. I look forward to reading it all.
     
  19. Abadacus

    Abadacus Jedi Master star 4

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    I just don't know what to say about this. It's very silly. I'll just have to go with hyperbole and sarcasm. Hey, it's my emergency default.

    Remember all those times we've been told, "The Story Group is going to have a hand in everything now. Everything that's canonized - at least when it comes to significant characters - is going to be so much more consistently high-quality."?
    Then we get this. Really, Story Group?

    Upcoming: Luke's middle name is Burp. Obi-Wan is an abbreviation for Obiwanifragilisticexpialidocious. Everyone will bring up Savage Oppress at every opportunity.
    None of us will be able to talk about Star Wars to non-fans again without feeling deeply embarrassed.
    This was all JJ's secret plan to gain his revenge on Disney for traumatizing him as a child, and destroy Star Wars so he can go back to Star Trek and rule pop sci-fi geekdom unopposed.
    That's my inane theory and I'm sticking to it. At least until the whiskey runs out.
     
  20. Clone_Cmdr_Wedge

    Clone_Cmdr_Wedge Jedi Master star 3

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    THE EMPIRE IS VICTORIOUS ON ALL FRONTS!

    *Looks at Palpatine's (canon) article on Wook*

    THE EMPIRE IS VICTORIOUS ON ALL MOST FRONTS! :p

    That said, I don't hate the name, but I'll admit that I chuckled at it when I saw it. At least it wasn't something like Imabaddude, or something equally as "subtle."
     
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  21. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Breaking: Zeta offended over changes to book he hasn't read
     
  22. DarthDragon164

    DarthDragon164 Jedi Master star 4

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    Sheev sounds like a stoner's name.
     
  23. The_Forgotten_Jedi

    The_Forgotten_Jedi Jedi Master star 4

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    What an awful name. Everything else is awesome.
     
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  24. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Thank god for Twitter.

    [​IMG]
     
  25. KED12345

    KED12345 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well.. at least we know why Palpatine rejected it in the Plagueis novel.

    I'll still refer to him as Frank.