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Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Polydroxol, Feb 14, 2014.

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When did Anakin/Darth Vader bring balance to the Force?

  1. The Jedi Purge.

    1.8%
  2. Killing Darth Sidious.

    58.2%
  3. Both, they equally contributed to the Force being balanced.

    32.7%
  4. Other

    7.3%
  1. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's not about the number of Force users. It's about the Sith creating an imbalance through the actions that they take in the PT.

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    This is what the Force is right here. The positive and the negative energies of the cosmos. The good and the evil. Always in balance to each other.

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    "I wanted to have this mythological footing because I was basing the films on the idea that the Force has two sides, the good side, the evil side, and they both need to be there. Most religions are built on that, whether it's called yin and yang, God and the devil—everything is built on the push-pull tension created by two sides of the equation. Right from the very beginning, that was the key issue in Star Wars."

    --George Lucas, “The Mythology of Star Wars,” Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth DVD, 2001


    "The overriding philosophy in Episode I—and in all the Star Wars movies, for that matter—is the balance between good and evil."

    --George Lucas, quoted in L. Bouzereau, Star Wars: The Making of Episode I, 1999


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    "If good and evil are mixed things become blurred - there is nothing between good and evil, everything is gray. In each of us we to have balance these emotions, and in the Star Wars saga the most important point is balance, balance between everything. It is dangerous to lose this. In The Phantom Menace one of the Jedi Council already knows the balance of The Force is starting to slip, and will slip further. It is obvious to this person that The Sith are going to destroy this balance. On the other hand a prediction which is referred to states someone will replace the balance in the future. At the right time a balance may again be created, but presently it is being eroded by dark forces."

    --George Lucas, Time Magazine article, 2002

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    "I think it is obvious that [Qui-Gon] was wrong in Episode I and made a dangerous decision, but ultimately this decision may be correct. The “phantom menace” refers to the force of the dark side of the universe. Anakin will be taken over by dark forces which in turn destroy the balance of the Galaxy, but the individual who kills the Emperor is Darth Vader—also Anakin. The tale meanders and both the prediction and Qui-Gon are correct—Anakin is the chosen one, and he did bring peace at last with his own sacrifice. Luke couldn't kill the Emperor himself, but he could make Anakin reflect on his life and kill the Emperor."

    --George Lucas, Cut Magazine interview, 1999
     
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  2. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Anakin brought balance to the Force by killing Sidious
     
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  3. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    darth-sinister, you just proved my point. If there are more Sith, they have the potential to imbalance the Force with their actions. The Jedi have the same capacity. So wither there more Jedi or Sith, there are more opportunities for imbalance.
     
  4. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's not the number of Sith. It is the actions that the Sith take. When the Sith were around the last time, the Force didn't go out of balance. What happens in the PT is that circumstances were ripe for the Force to go out of balance. Palpatine did something different from the predecessors that came before Darth Bane, a thousand years back. Those Sith Lords took the galaxy by force and the Jedi Knights of that era fought back against them with the help of the remnants of the Republic. This time, Darth Sidious blurs the lines between good and evil and this results in his being handed the keys to the kingdom and in turn, disrupts the balance of the Force. The actions the offspring of Anakin Skywalker helps to reunite the disaffected, who in turn help to topple the might of the Empire. Anakin in particular turns on his Master and this act of sacrifice results in the Force being balanced. The Sith could come back again, but it won't disrupt the balance again.
     
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  5. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Right, the actions the Sith take, if there are more Sith there are more actions or more potential for them to act in ways that bring imbalance. Are you arguing the Jedi never bring imbalance? If so how do you support that thesis? Often it is because the Jedi have gained a foothold and are dominate in the Republics that the Sith emerge and bring what you call imbalance. Others would say that Sidious brought balance, that by eliminating the legions of Jedi, he gave the Dark Side more of a piece of the Yin and Yang pie. If we are going to debate balance we have to factor in both Light Side users and Dark Side users. There cannot just be imbalance if the Sith act and bring imbalance, the Jedi can do the same if they eliminate enough of the Dark Side's hold on planets, beings, and etc.