Amph "The Sleeper Has Awakened" - DUNE DISCUSSION-

Found my CoD mini. Watching now

 

Filming has begun!

http://www.darkhorizons.com/filming-begins-on-villeneuves-dune/

 

Almost hard to believe this is a real thing!

 

If this one doesn't work out I just might live long enough for the next remake. And people say I'm not an optimist.

 

Christian Bale Gains 450,000 Pounds To Play Sandworm In Dune Remake

 

I still have a soft spot for Lynch's film. Yes, it's not a perfect film and has some odd choices but it has great cinematic moments. I love the spice worms.

@Bilbo Fett they say Bale loves the weight loss challenges.

 

@ShaneP the lynch dune film is amazing to me. I've probably watched it more than all the Star Wars movies

And that bale thing I took seriously for like a second

 

I even like the score by Toto(OMG I cannot believe I said that!). But yes, there are many things to enjoy about it. The worms really have a sense of scale and largesse. I liked Sting in it at the time but that was because I was a fan of The Police. It is about far out enough to make you wonder what Lynch would have done with a Return of the Jedi film had George really pressed him to do it.

 

I think there's bits and pieces of the Lynch film that I liked. I have Kyle MacLachlan in my head now as Paul as I'm reading through Dune: Messiah, as well as the actors for Chani, Jessica and Irulan. The rest of the film's depictions of characters, technology and other stuff though...are too wacky for me.

 

Jessica was perfect. Duke Leto perfect. Everything was awesome compared to the miniseries minus a few points --

I'll admit Feyd was given a better backstory in the series, larger part but wasn't as compelling as Sting. Comparably though, neither really fit the image of him in the book.

The BG's outfits I liked better, and if those were the Sadukar dress uniforms sure but not combat ones. The guild...
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No.

Irulan was closer to her book counterpart but I liked the film actress better. Bout the only person I liked better was Chani. She fit the bill greatly and had a better part whereas the film underused her.


One thing that bugged me about the series-- how the heck do you say Harkonnen? I remember when the Baron flew up in the series he said it and it bugged me because it wasn't what the movie pronounced it as. Is it the movie way or series way? I prefer the movie pronunciation of the name.

 

Oy. I didn't care for the mini series much.

 

A lot was off for me with it but those are the few bright spots.

Wonder if the new film with have Count Fenring?

 

Scaling up using a titanoboa as a base at 409 meters he would in fact have to weigh approx 81 million pounds for the role.

 

He used the opportunity to soapbox about aluminum vs plastic but he's doing this for his Dune role. And he dropped an Aquaman reference (Ocean Master would be proud).

And who'd have though that the GoT actor who would hit it the biggest would be Momoa, with just a single season appearance and limited discernible dialog.

 

I mean, so far. The other GoT actors have just now finished the show. Give them time

Anyway, I saw the shaving stuff and figured it was for Dune. Very excited for this movie. I've read the first three books and can't wait to see the big screen vision. I admit I've never seen the Lynch film... Should I watch it?

 

such a difficult question. It's terrible. It's not exactly a faithful adaptation, but where Lynch does reproduce precise dialogue from the book, that's where the movie is at its absolute worst. The effects aren't any good but are so much better than the acting. Sting might be the best thing about it, but by that I definitely mean "the worst thing about it."

I imagine Peter Jackson's Dune would be worse. George Lucas's Dune would be worse. Steven Spielberg's Dune would be really bad. Ridley Scott? wouldn't want him near Dune.

To make a sci fi movie analogy, Dune is the Kobayashi Maru of sci fi movies. It's an unwinnable scenario by design.

 

Yeah I've always been torn on whether to watch it. I know some people genuinely like it. But I imagine it would be a so bad it's good situation.

 

I love Lynch’s terrible Dune movie and heartily recommend it.

 

I don't understand how the effects could be so horrible. This movie came out after Star Wars, and Star Wars still looks great. Wrath of Khan doesn't look bad either today. But Dune?

 

I didn't see it at the time - practically nobody did - but I do remember the shops being littered with Dune toys they couldn't sell. They thought they were going to make Star Wars money off that stuff.

 

I believe I heard Conan O'Brien relate that when he went to see Dune in theatres they were handing out cards for all the terminology and lore in the lobby before the movie and it freaked him out that he had to study for the film.

 

It came out after Empire and had more than double Empire's budget.

 

The score is about the best thing about the movie. And I had never even heard of Toto before, nor do I know any of their songs. But they really did a good job on Dune. The main theme, prophecy theme, "Paul Meets Chani" or "Big Battle" are amazing. The soundtrack couldn't have been better. I only found the end title music to be pretty weak.

 

Toto was such a bizarre choice for the score. You half expected the movie to start w/"I bless the rains down in Arrakis." or Paul dancing through the sietch crooning "Meet you all the way, Chani, yeah!". But it's fantastic. Really marries perfectly w/Lynch's take on the material; even if you don't like said take.

 

Will Dune be two movies?


That's the plan. There's a backstory that was hinted at in some of the books [that we expanded]. Also, when you read the book there's a logical place to stop the movie before the book is over.

Link to full article but that is the extent of what it mentions about Dune:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/legendary-ceo-joshua-grode-pitting-pikachu-marvel-1203881