The Terminator Thread: T1, Judgement Day, Rise of the Machines, Salvation & Sarah Connor Chronicles

Great final episode. This show deserves to live on.

 

New 4 minute clip of the new movie

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/

 

New review of T4

http://video.reeltalktv.com/player/?id=1104223

 

Too bad. I really enjoyed this show. And it was getting better every week. I'm surprised Fox renewed Dollhouse but not S.Connor

 

Actually, Dollhouse is sorta following the same path that TSCC did: TSCC was approx. 13 eps in Season 1, then renewed for one more season, where it was unceremoniously moved to the Friday Night Dead Zone.

And since Dollhouse has been renewed for only 13 eps for Season 2, it's likely that it'll be on the bubble from the moment S2 begins, as I'd guess it'll stay on the Friday night roster. And so, the suits at Fox were probably hedging their bets to begin with.

 

Spoiler image of the cameo in Salvation.

 

I'm sorry, but I'm just not really interested in a Terminator movie without the Governator as the star, add the fact that it's directed by MCG and written by the same guys who wrote Catwoman and my interest in this film is timid at best, I might check it out on dvd.

 

I watched T2 the other night and still holds well except for one scene. It occurs after John and the T-800 break Sarah out they're driving down the road. Here's a film that spends 100 million dollars yet the background in that scene looks like it's out of some Lucy and Desi film from the 50's. That always bugged me.

 

bummed they cancelled the show after that ending

 

Musically, the score uses almost all the major Terminator themes (which already elevates it 30 times above T3) and even has a T1 credits-sequence homage. Also using You Could Be Mine (during a motocycle scene, no less was supremely awesome.

Danny Elfman recycled Brad Fiedel's themes? I like that.

 

The2ndQuest, how did you manage to see it - it`s not out for a while yet, or so I thought?

 

I just got back. Overall while I think the movie isn't it was honestly better than I'd dared to hope. Particularly I thought the pacing of Marcus's development was well done, as was the dynamic between him and John. The action scenes are top-notch, and all varied enough that they don't become dull. And I think the overall aesthetic of the film was just excellent. I've heard people complain that there wasn't much of a plot, but I'm a big pretty big fan of the franchise, and John wanting to rescue Kyle was compelling enough to me. I do wish The Resistance had been fleshed out a bit more; the upper-level officers in particular were total cardboard cutouts. The only scene I outright disliked was the scene where Marcus finds out what he is. I don't mind the scene conceptually, I just think it was executed poorly. The dialogue is just way too expository, and poorly delivered at that. It would have been even worse had the opening scene of the movie not been there, so I must disagree with you on that, T2Q.

Now, here is my main plot-related quibble with the movie; Didn't Skynet send the terminators back to kill John Connor after he had basically destroyed Skynet and won the war? Before that point, would they even know who he is?

 

It's interesting that T3 was practically a darling of the critics relative to Terminator Salvation, if you go by the RT score (35%). I'm going to see Salvation tonight because, frankly, they had me at terminator motorcycles. This is how discerning a cinephile I really am.

 

Skynet's awareness of the future is a continuity nod to T3, where the T-X is implied to have uploaded Skynet with vital intel on the early days of the Resistance and such. I can also be inferred that this upload may have been the final trigger pull that caused Skynet to go ape**** on the talking apes.

EDIT-You can't use that word here.

 

Something I realized when I told my brother he needs to watch T1 again before he goes to see this one; This movie actually fits alot more seamlessly if you just treat it as the first sequel to T1, almost like an alternate sequel from T2.

 

I just saw the movie, it was better than I thought it was going to be, but nowhere near as good as T1 and light years behind T2, it's on par with T3, but one thing stands out: the soundtrack royally sucked, I don't know what has happened to Danny Elfman, but this aspect was just plain bad.

 

I saw it because I had some free time this afternoon.

On par with T3, it is a mix of Transformers/Matrix/Robocop

HUGE Spoiler, don't look if you haven't seen and are going
CGI of a Circa 1984 naked Arnie as the T-800 was awesome

 

I saw it last night, and I liked it alot. It had good action, and a good redemption story with Marcus. It really lacked in developing chracter relationships, but still enjoyed it.

 

That's the only thing that convinced me to see the movie, because it made me beleive that they might actually be serious about creating a legitimate Terminator sequel.

Overall, this isnt near as bad as the critics are making it sound. If you dont expect a whole lot you wont be very disapointed. Although it is disappointing in the sense that there were some good things about it that could have made it really good. I LOVED the sound effects. And I liked how they kept out music a lot of the time to allow the sounds to dominate. And I liked the realistic POV shots in a lot of the action. A lot of times it felt like a post apocalyptic version of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, without the gory violence. Im interested to see the R rated version on DVD. Danny Eflman's music seemed out of place in the first couple of scenes, but got a lot better later and seemed more familiar to the rest of the franchise. However, despite the fact that Elfman is a great composer, I think he was a very curious and odd decision for a Terminator sequel. Couldnt they have gotten someone whose work INHERENTLY resembles Brad Fiedel more?

What they should have done is never made T3 and just should have made this movie. That way it could serve more as a prequel.