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Why would anyone who supports Remain vote for the Brexit party? I mean, I can just about understand a Remain supporter voting Tory because they've always voted Tory/the Tory candidate for their constituency is a Remainer/whatever, but it would have to be a particuarly stupid Remain supporter to vote for a party whose only raison d'être is to achieve Brexit...

 

I meant labour party not Brexit.

Whoops

 

Labour is pretty much a Leave party at this point

 

Cabinet has backed May's Brexit compromises offer. She's to speak on developments at 4PM.
BBC News

 

Well, considering the Tories and Labour are both set for humiliation on Thursday anyway...

 

Yeah - her week can't get much worse. At least she seems to have the Cabinet on side for a change.

Edit - just breaking on BBC News that the European Parliament is to investigate Nigel Farage's Brexit Party funding to see if they broke rules by accepting money from Arron Banks.

 

I don't want to be seen as condoning any kind of political violence, but can we all revel in the fact that, this week, the man who said he would pick up a rifle if Brexit wasn't delivered, the day after Jo Cox was murdered, is crying about political violence on the left because he got splashed with a little banana and salted caramel milkshake.

 

It was almost as good as John Prescott and the egg, except that the egg thrower got a bit of a return surprise.

 

The difference is that Farage is a gutless toad.

He can be heard in the footage yelling at the security that they're absolute failures and that he saw the splash coming a mile off (even though he walked directly towards the person with the shake) then refused to get off the campaign bus for the rest of his trip.

Now he's cooked up claims that his mic was damaged (it wasn't, it picked his voice up fine afterwards) and that the milkshake somehow cut him.

Farage's supporters are the kinds of people to scream "snowflake" at minorities upset at slurs and far worse acts of violence. But once the tables are turned, once they get splashed with a little milkshake or get called gammon, they can't take the heat at all.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48347371
British Steel should be nationalised, urges Labour

 

Isn't that Labour's solution to everything?

 

It's a pretty good solution to most things, but they are spot on with this. The government has ****ed British Steel with Brexit, it's only right that they (we) buy a huge stake and bail them out of the mess they're in.

 

And now for irony: I'm not sure that can happen quickly without a No Deal Brexit.

 

Well actually we've done stuff like this before (I think with Railtrack in shortly after 9/11?), and Belgium went ahead and did it with their steel industry in 2016. Belgium got fined for it, or had to 'retrieve' the money, but their cost/risk analysis decided it was worth it, I guess.

 

Interesting. Thanks.

 

There's a lot of buzz going around that Theresa May could be resigning tonight, that way with no leader in place for tomorrow's European election nobody can technically get the blame for the Tories performing so dismally.



Either way, Theresa May had almost none of her back benchers behind her at today's PMQs, and it's being reported that the 1922 committee are meeting to discuss changing the rules and ousting May tonight, due to an influx of new No Confidence letters.

 

Been seeing that on BBC News in the last hour or so. I'm just waiting for the 5PM news to start.

 

BBC News reporting the 1922 Committee meeting has broken up without agreeing a rule change. They will meet the Chief Whip shortly and there will be another meeting at 6PM.

 

Oh, how I long for the days when the US can hold no confidence votes in congress for the president. However, it'd still fail. Maybe.

 

Problem here is they tried too soon. Under the current rule (the one under discussion) they can't try again for a year.

 

That sucks. I get it. But it should be a twice per year kinda thing.

 

Yeah - if the new rule holds they can't do it again til December (I believe). However if the PM could be subjected to no confidence votes every time he/she makes Parliament mad nothing would get done.

 

The cons could, in theory, just exclude her from the running and decision making of the party. Not sure how long that could last, however, and I'm not sure if they could effectively do that with the government. Everyone could just refuse to acknowledge her authority and answer to the chancellor instead..?

 

I love the idea of her barricading herself in with the sofa up against the door.

 

I'm not sure if that would be in line with the rules. One problem is there are multiple people who want the job - not just Boris Johnson. So there has to be a leadership contest if she steps down. And the Conservative Party membership usually get a say in who is the new party leader. (Party leader becomes PM if the party is elected).