Senate The US Politics 2.0 Discussion Thread

Oh I know. Its free, enjoyable entertainment.

And judging by your post to me clearly indicates you are all about quality, good-natured conversations? I see. Because telling me to star, star star, star "off" isnt trolling. Right. Like I said, have a terrific day. Otherwise, lets have a political discussion and be nice about it. Thats OK with me too.

 

Wanna keep giving trolls free, enjoyable entertainment? Don't do this.

 

if you’re not a troll, then have a conversation

answer people’s questions, explain why you think the way you do

because so far all you’ve done is parrot far right talking points and ignore anyone who challenges you

edit, and no, if someone presents a view I strongly disagree with, I’m not always going to be nice in return, especially when that view effects other people, like someone being against M4A, if someone is actively against M4A then they don’t deserve a nice response in my opinion

 

He is incapable of doing otherwise and delights in the pain it brings. Disengage.

 

Technically speaking, that's not an Oxford comma. The Oxford comma is just on the last comma in lists, but not all comma usages.

https://www.verbicidemagazine.com/2...lustrate-why-you-should-use-the-serial-comma/

Though I'd agree the comma's not requisite.

 

Ask me something and I'd be happy to answer. Bear in mind, sometimes I dont answer because they questions are not genuine or include insults/whatever. So where were we? Ask away.

 

... and a House Rep from Tennessee lashed out at the millions who quit their jobs just to get unemployment benefits.

.... except you can't get unemployment benefits if you quit your job.

 

Its on the same level of stupidity as MTG going after the NBA for not letting Kyrie Irving play because he's not vaccinated....except that the NBA is allowing him to play, just that vaxx mandates in NYC do not allow him to enter the facilities to play, so its the city (or the state, I dont know), not the NBA. He could play road games, but the Nets (the franchise, not the league) has made a decision that if he wont play all games, he wont play at all.

 

One bright light - the state of Florida ****ed up unemployment so much they've indefinitely suspended collection operations (for example, last year they thought it was a good idea to just autopay claimants because the systems were overwhelmed... except people would return to work and still receive payments without asking for them because they literally had no way to stop them)

 

IATSE Strike Deadline Has Networks and Streamers Scrambling for Programming Options

I'm betting that we hit the October 18th date with a strike and no deal before then.

 

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out!

There must be some bizarre dopaminergic circuit in my brain that delights in responding to Mike’s posts, even though he has me on ignore. I need to locate it and burn it out.

 

Suprise a republican in congress is a ****ing moron

 

You're assuming you need something to be true to claim it politically - you really don't.

 

Wait if you can stop people from posting in a particular thread, why hasn't wocky been banned from the ****posting thread?

 

Mods have had the ability to ban people from particular threads for some time. I at least heard of it a month or so ago

 

Yeah he got kicked out of the pandemic thread after I complained that his insistence COVID wasn’t all that bad was affecting my mental health after a week of watching unvaccinated people die from the virus at the hospital (this was several months ago).

 

Which is why he attempted to turn every other thread into surrogate Pandemic threads.

 

It really is a great demonstration of why diseases need to be squashed rather than allowed to spread because they'll just find new things to infect.

 

Amazing how the votes of two subhuman barrels of industrial waste can kill a mildly ambitious climate agenda-- something the US could've used as leverage in Glasgow at the end of this month-- and help condemn billions to immense suffering. The IPCC, a fundamentally conservative body, says we have until the end of the decade to slash carbon emissions by at least half. At least a million species will be driven to extinction; 2/3rds of humanity could see their homes swallowed by the ocean; swaths of South Asia, South America, the US Southeast, will see heat/humidity conditions that are literally impossible for any healthy adult human to survive because sweat can't evaporate. All because capital and their servants can't wrap their minds around anything but short-term profit-- or thinking they can buy their way out of the apocalypse by ****ing off to New Zealand or somewhere the climate crisis will magically spare. To say that Manic Pixie Nightmare Senator and the perfect embodiment of his state's long decline deserve no peace in their daily lives is an understatement. I hope they're followed into every restroom and get yelled at by normal people while they're squeezing out their fancy donor dinners.

It's not only their fault, of course. I'm sure there are other avenues to explore, but fat chance of that happening because still no one with enough power is treating it like the biggest emergency we've faced as a species. It's just an "Aw shucks, I wish we could've kept the planet livable. We gotta compromise sometimes."

 

@anakinfansince1983 - what common values do you speak of? I suspect like with many things, the objectives aren’t far off but how we get there might be. Sorry if I missed some questions a while back. I’d love to discuss common values or at least what you feel some key ones are.

 

1) The bolded part of your first statement is key here, IMO. Prevention is always worth "more" than curing or treating just about anything bad in life. Most states have homeless shelters and the like. Are they totally adequate? Probably not and they cant always take everyone. I really dont know what you do other than work extra hard on ensuring people dont end up homeless in the first place. Im not sold on just giving them the bare minimum forever though. That doesnt lead to a very dignified life. The poor people thing ties into prevention too, sort of. Set them up for success early on, teach them to be smart with money even if they dont make a lot, etc. However, high costs are an area that Im not sure how you deal with. If we subsidize too much then costs just go up and then the next tier of income earners might get pushed out. I dunno. To me, its not our incomes that are the problem, its how much everything costs. Its out of balance.

2) Wars overseas? Cutting back our reliance on resources we get from these places would probably help. Stop trying to change Govts that dont benefit from our style of Govt. While I support a strong and well funded military, I dont like our constant meddling in affairs overseas. Then again, some Afghani people were NOT happy to see us leave. Do we sit back and just let dangerous regimes take charge of countries like that? What is our role? Do we just say not our issue and forget it? Dunno.

3) While racism and sexism will never fully be eradicated, IMO we've made a lot of strides here as a nation. I know its anecdotal but my medium sized software company is as diverse as ever. Way different than just 15 years ago. And its working out great, TBH. My daughters have had or will have good opportunities to succeed in life. Other races are climbing into the ranks of the middle classes. A lot of good here so far. Ive discussed this here with others but the best way IMO to keep this on the right track is with positive experiences with people different than you. It adds up. It can wipe away per-conceived ideas. Nothing beats a good experience with someone to help you mold your attitude towards them.

4) We need to determine what makes people want to shoot people and get to the root of that. Theres that prevention thing again! I just posted in the gun control forum that we need better gun regulations and Ive backed reasonable rule changes that would help. Its up to congress at this point. Good Luck with that.

So, not horribly that far off here.

 

Not to come off like Vivec here, but expecting everyone to work misses a lot about who's homeless as it is (and probably something something capitalism).

San Diego did some looking at who's homeless, for example, and well over half have disabilities of some kind. Some of those are situations that can be treated, but many of those are also going to be things that seriously limit their ability to work even with proper care. That points to a lot more intervention than what boils down to "get to work". So from that, I don't see how the best way to eradicate homelessness is a solution that doesn't do much to address a significant portion of the homeless population.

I'll point to Finland, which instead based this on getting people housed first and then going from there (in terms of what they expected of people they were helping, this still does require a support structure to exist): https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...le-helsinkis-radical-solution-to-homelessness