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You cannot blame what happened in Hawaii this morning on Trump. It be easy to do it but he had nothing to do with the wrong button being pushed. Now if you want to blast him for not getting off the golf course during the whole thing (like I am), then go right ahead.

 

I'm a bit more annoyed by the White House statement calling this "purely a state exercise". I'm not sure if I'm just reading too much into that phrase, which sounds less like an attempt at calm and more like distancing themselves. Its not quite an exercise as more like there's a big hole in the local emergency system, and some of the local officials didn't react quickly enough to calm things down (and I hope they'll go over every procedure they have for this kind of thing, they really need to improve things to avoid this kind of thing happening again).

There are several viral videos by now, but fortunately it wasn't complete pandemonium in all the streets. You never want to see that kind of message. I'm just afraid that if there's a next time and its real that people won't believe it. I also hope that the world situation won't be so worrisome, but well, one thing at a time.

EDIT: By now, to sum things up, sounds like someone pushed the wrong button during a shift change and... yeah, it really shouldn't be that easy to set off a panic like that. I understand that everyone was probably trying to verify things after that, but still. They've got to be more careful. And in 2018, talking about wrong buttons is particularly worrisome.

 

I'm not. I'm saying it's the ultimate symbol of life under the Trump administration. Cold war style fears stoked up. I'd like to be able to bottle the fear that Hawaiians felt this morning and export it to Alabama voters. also I'd send a free sample of eau d'apocalypse to @V-2

 

Yeah, the problem is that once upon a time, like during the Obama years, a warning like that could go out and there would have been a collective shrug and everybody would have thought that it was obvious mistake. Now, with Trump in power for a year, we're at the place where the warning got sent out and everybody was like, "Oh my God, it's finally happening." If I had gotten that message this morning, I would have believed it. That's where we are as a collective society right now. People who voted for Trump specifically because they thought he would make us safer should really evaluate what happened this morning and think about that. Under Obama, the idea of a ballistic missile hitting a US state would have seemed ridiculous; under Trump, it seems absolutely plausible. Has he made us safer? He certainly hasn't made us feel safer.

 

Ya exactly

 

BTW, on a funnier note: SNL got Bill Murray to play Steve Bannon in the open.

 

He did if your primary fear in life was women and non-whites getting uppity and forgetting their place. Which is why they voted for him and why the White House felt comfortable initially celebrating his latest remarks.

 

And I now want Oprah to run as president just for more of Leslie Jones as Oprah.

 

To shutdown or not to shutdown?

As recently as a week ago, I would've advised against a shutdown over DACA. But after Trump's remarks, I think Democrats win this fight, if not on substance, than certainly on the optics. If DACA truly dies, images of college students being arrested while walking across the quad to class and surgical residents being dragged out of cases by ICE agents will certainly endear minorities and everyone outside of Trump's base more tightly to the GOP for decades to come

I don't want to see it happen, not by a long shot, but maybe it needs to. Despite all the yelling from those who oppose him, other than stopping a full-throated ACA repeal, Trump, McConnell and Ryan have gotten a lot of what they wanted. Perhaps we need something to get people out in the streets and shake off their complacency. I'm not saying we aren't fighting back, but we could potentially do a lot more (like pressure corporate America to withhold investing in the US economy until policies change under the threat of boycott). I'm also wondering whether or not any of this energy will last long enough to make a difference in the midterms.

At this point, I think the Supreme Court is likely to uphold gerrymandering, which will make turnout all the more key. Kennedy might try and find a middle ground, but there's no guarantee.

 

I'd like to think that this was a political move to blame the Democrats for not passing something he had no intention of actually supporting, but I sadly I think it was just another temper tantrum by Donny over his racist comments being exposed.

In other not-at-all-surprising news, Wal-Mart - in addition to the Sam's Clubs closing, is also reducing 3500 co-manager positions to lower-paid assistant manager positions. I guess that's like a raise, only in the other direction. So it still counts, right?

 

Who didn't see this coming?

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/arpaio-no...rt-points-093210792--abc-news-topstories.html

 

You know, I'm really not shocked anymore.

 

There's no hope for anybody in this world now. Best to just nuke ourselves and let the next race take over in 60 + million years time.

 

well there's more people than ever now , so I suppose we're doing something right .

 

#reversediscrimination

 

Yes because Obama birther crap and Hawaii’s missile warning system are related ho-

Oh, wait.

 

It appears Appleseed took over Juliet's account.

 

Oh I hope he wins the Republican primary. It’ll be the best present I’ve had all winter (ok not really, but it would still be pretty awesome nonetheless).

 

Chelsea Manning is running for Senate

Well this'll be fun.

 

Can we persuade a group of Weeping Angels to surround a certain group of "leaders?"

 

What does he look like?