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@Leoluca Randisi

Yeah read "The Fifth Risk" and you will see just how correct you are about Trump's interest being his own, not the country's.

 

1) That's like saying because Republicans don't think you should kill your child, then they need to adopt them. ???

Recognizing a right to life doesn't mean you are invading someone else's private life.

Unless you think killing a new born is no one's business but the mother's.

And that's just stupid.

2) Maybe it's science and not misogyny. I know our resident Dr will disagree with me on no real basis other than he's a dr, but even a zygote meets all scientific criteria for life. And a DNA test will prove it's a unique, brand new human life.

Abortion is murder. It's fine (I guess) if you are cool with it, but understand it's murder.

Soooo....

Trump kills it on 60 Minutes and then we find out that Warren has less Native American in her than the average European American.

Good week.

 

If there was ever a time where the world was 100% sure they could take advantage of the USA it is now, since the head of state is by far the dumbest, most immature person that has occupied the office.

You can do anything, commit any atrocity known to man, do it to American citizens and/or its interests, and all you have to do get away with it is kiss Trump's ass and "strongly deny" any wrongdoing or just say you had no knowledge of what was going to happen, and he'll believe you. He is racist, dumb, and a sellout, and shame on all of you who defend him and support him.

 

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And it are sentences like these that make the world remember what came afterwards:

"Am 30. Januar sind in Deutschland die Würfel gefallen. Und ich glaube nicht, dass die Gegner, die damals noch gelacht haben, heute auch noch lachen."

"On January 30, the dice fell in Germany. And I do not think that the opponents who laughed at the time laugh today, too."
Hitler - 1933
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And it is statements like these that make rational people say, you can't take anything crazed Trump haters say seriously.

 

Soooooo....

Trump goes on an ill-advised media blitz, embarrassed himself repeatedly, and demanded to be absolved of any responsibility in the Republicans losing in the midterms.
Trump then showed how beholden he was to Saudi Arabia, acting as their PR in defending a rather gruesome assassination and causing a rare bipartisan break from him on this issue.
It's been a good week.

The US has plenty of friends, that coincidentally are almost all dictatorships. I know Trump is keenly watching the Brazil elections in the hopes he'll a new friend.
... I'm kidding, of course. I doubt he's even aware of the Brazilian presidential election.

Yes, that totally explains his bowing and scraping to the Saudis.
Trump's 1st and last interest is Trump.
And no, Trump isn't "disagreeing" with our traditional allies, he's actively insulting, belittling and outright attacking them, while cozying up to dictatorships... which he can barely conceal his desire to emulate.

 

Is it? Like your post that contained the word "Russia" without any context just to derail from the topic?
Look at Bolton/Trump statements and tell me that they do not remind you on the quote above.
You take a president seriously that calls a pornstar "horseface" on twitter.


Btw. read my post history here and call me a Trump hater again. Start searching my name and "Hillary".

 

I could find hundreds of quotes from Hitler on his hatred for Russia. But if I used them to associate him with Liberals today that would make me look rather silly don't you think?

 

Wait a minute! He called you deplorable? What an ass!

LOL.

Seriously, tho, I can and have said the same thing about Clinton and Obama. They hate me and have been clear about it. Yet you demand they get the benefit of the doubt.

Even after Comey spends 12 minutes detailing Clinton's crimes before saying that there was no intent.

Give her the benefit of the doubt, for crying out loud!

 

No it’s not like saying that, because not everyone equates a fetus to a human life. I have had a number of (thankfully) early miscarriages. They’re absolutely devastating. You know what though? It’s nothing compared to what I would feel if I lost my child. So don’t equate fetus life to human life to me. That may be your value system, but it isn’t mine and I don’t remotely understand it or even respect it if you insist on trying to push it on others.

Meanwhile, if a person chooses not to donate a kidney to save a life, do you complain? Do you think they’re murderers? I bet not. There’s a certain amount of respect generally for bodily autonomy, but check it out, not when the issue only affects women.

You ignored my specific point determining that it’s misogyny. Do you understand any real, human situations that led to late term abortion? Based on this post I doubt it, which means you’ve never cared to try and understand the human aspect of it. Like I said, you’re just proselytizing. Or what it is I see conservatives around the Internet say? Oh that’s right. This is virtue signaling.

And I disagree with you that it’s murder. Your value system isn’t my value system. I hope you protest in vitro clinics because there’s a holocaust happening inside those walls by your logic.

 

Yes, you would look silly, because Obama and especially Hillary made a bad foreign policy, but never publicly asserted that the US was superior to other countries. Trump, Bolton and co. do that, shamelessly and in a very condescending way. I do not remember that a democratic president called a country ****hole, or insulted elected heads of state from friendly countries while praising brutal dictators purely because of their own advantage.
Trump makes a lot of hateful statements that can be linked to historic ones. The Dems (like them or not) did not.

 

@anakinfansince1983

The onus is not you to explain why you hate Trump but rather Trumpsters explain why they stand by him despite how much destruction he has done in every single possible bit of measurement. And to me they are just like him, broken people therefore until they are fix they should be just ignored and shunned. Eventually they will lose. After all, I don't see Trump or his Cult #45ers talking much about the NFL ratings do you??

 

I'm sure I've heard Hillary say that the US is the greatest country during speeches before. That is Publicly stating that your superior to other countries.

 

I guess if I were a Trump supporter I would lean extremely heavily on the economic growth rate, the low unemployment rate, the Supreme Court nominations and the fact that fewer people want to come to the United States to live and work and study, because Trump has successfully poisoned that well. The pyscho-social wall has been built. With an emphasis on psycho.

 

It's not a value system. It's science. It's the death of a single human life.

It. Is. A. Human. Death.

Full stop, as people like to say.

Not the death of some human tissue. A death of a human.

And yes, scientifically speaking, vitro clinics are creating (for lack of a better term) life just to kill a percentage of it. I'm not comfortable with that at all.

 

Hillary did make a statement during her run that would of made Hitler proud. She called a certain part of the population deplorable. I think that's right out of his playbook.

 

At one time, Mussolini was loved. We see how that ended.

This chaos and anger is going to lead to something bad eventually. They're already killing us in the streets. All Trump knows is conflict. All he has done in his life is steal and destroy. That's not changing now.

In many ways the most distressing thing about his cult is that like him, they do not see the idea of a win-win as an option. The only place for us in their America is under their boot. And that is why you cannot play around with these people. Nobody in Germany was being put in ovens in 1933. No one thought that could happen.

 

Yeah you can use a thousand periods, it won’t change the fact that it’s not science. It’s your value system.

You’re just “not comfortable” with mass murder happening in fertility clinics? Wow. That’s some respect for the sanctity of life you have there. Notice how the outrage plummeted to dull lack of comfort when suddenly it seems like a man is affected, like a man desperate to be a father? I certainly notice.

 

Everyone who loves his country is allowed to call it great or greatest.

But for me everyone who thinks his country is exceptional and others are ****holes while quoting Mussolini is either a fascist, an idiot or at least an extremely doubtful person


Mrs Albright is a horrible person, but her analysis here hits the nail on the head:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/madeleine-albright-warns-of-a-new-fascism-and-trump

This.

 

The Trump argument "Happy Days are Here Again" economically is not working because it's total bullcrap. The average family has seen nothing but higher bills across the board from energy to interest rates with no relief in site. Wages are flat for the third quarter in a row while inflation keeps skyrocketing. And for those vaunted "tax cuts" they got gobbled up in their gas tanks even though Private Citizen/Candidate Trump railed against Obama for higher fuel prices saying they were the "life blood of the American economy"....until they stabilize under Obama. Then he didn't say a peep kinda like he doesn't point to the stock market anymore as a sign that "MAGA" is happening. The last time the market has been this volatile is 2008 and even Trump remembers what happen then since the credit crisis is why he went to the Russians for $$$ In the first place.

 

No, actually, the termination of a human fetus is, by definition, termination of a homo sapiens sapiens life before the end of its gestation. It is not a question of value system, but cold, hard fact which, I'll grant you, can be very disturbing mentally to admit, and therefore trigger the natural response of refusing to admit the fact to preserve one's sanity.

Value systems come into play when people attempt to define at which point the fetus should be given the consideration granted to a human.

 

Okay. It’s not mentally disturbing to admit. Human bodies naturally abort a lot of Homo sapiens sapiens life then. I understand that extremely well.

The value system I’m referring to is obviously your last paragraph. When is a fetus human? Science doesn’t answer that question. It can’t. Science doesn’t equate a fetus to human life. If it did, lots of things in the scientific world would not be allowed to occur due to ethics.

 

To all the hardcore pro-lifers:

Imagine you find yourself in an in-vitro clinic and there's a fire breaking out.
On your way out you can grab either a cryo-can with 500 fertilized human eggs, or a single child cowering in a corner, but not both.

In other words, do you save 500 lives or a single one?

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