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He's ****ing delusional

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH *breaths deep* HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

I'd love to see Trump get the French treatment.

 

That's why there would be a limited absentee balloting. For those who can't be at the polls on election day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckd...te-change-taxes-is-america-next/#4a135e2d632e

And looks like the French have finally found the courage they've historically had to fight for freedom! God bless!

 

Hence my point about being unable to unseat them without violence.

To be clear, I’m not simply talking about civil unrest. Force can be applied in many ways, including economic. If millions of Americans refused to spend any money for 48 hours for any reason outside of emergencies, the ripple effect would be profound. If they did it in and to certain states and/or corporations for longer, pressure would soon be brought to bear on the political class.

There’s no pain like ‘loss-of-profit’ pain. Or to say it another way, “Hell hath no fury like a boycott-driven bad quarterly earnings report”.

 

I think this is probably the best way to solve voter disenfranchisement. Not perfect (still excludes many people without stable residence/residence at all if we're going to issue them via mail) but would add back so many people in urban areas that don't own driver's licenses. Those of us in rural areas often don't understand that many people in cities don't get them as early as they can like we do.

And if you make it hard to fake (like Virginia's licenses) it'll be hard to get up in arms about voter fraud.

 

I still say we make Columbus Day Voting Day.

Most schools are closed. Many businesses are closed. Some Federal agencies are closed. And that's just because it is Monday. Nationalizing it would just shut the rest down. I also would welcome cutting short this insanity by a month. And getting rid of 'Columbus Day' as we know it would not be a bad idea either.

But I still think there should be early or absentee voting for those who might miss that one day for whatever reason.

I also still think we need to invest heavily in stronger voting machines and options. Voting should be as easy as an app on your phone. I can pay bills, make purchases, and check my bank account using a fingerprint and get a receipt for all the above. Why can't this be done with my vote? There are ways to do it while still keeping it anonymous. And if every voter were given their own tracking number and could see when their vote was counted (think tracking that delivery order you put in) then we'd know if our votes were actually counted and have a way to challenge it. And yes, hacking is a concern but there are ways to reduce and depending on how it is done, possibly eliminate such concerns. We just need to actually use smart people for this over the current machines that an 8th grader can crack in 5 minutes.

 

Good idea, Yodaminch.

 

Agreed. Blockchain technology could make voting electronically practically hacker-proof.

 

It’s already hard if you live in a fact-based world.

 

Blockchain is a good idea - unless you're one of the folks who don't go online for one reason or another. Here in the UK some of the rural areas have very poor net access - either extremely slow or non-existent. I'm sure the same is true in some areas of the US. As long as that remains the case there will be a need for physical or postal voting.

 

The French have more social, political and economic freedoms under national and European laws than your average American.

gilets jaunes might have started out as an anti-tax protest, but it has spread to wider and more complex movements. Some of it historical economic injustice (grievances similar to the rust belt in America), some social reform (better pensions, higher minimum wage, increase public spending) and others would like to occupy the Elysee Palace and kill the President. Literally.

It has also spread to neighbouring countries, like Belgium. Hundreds tried to storm and burn down the European Parliament.

So, yeah, it is a little more complex than "taxes are bad"

 

It's amusing though predictable that the American right is painting what's happening in France as a rejection of taxes or fighting climate change per se.

 

@DANNASUK - remember that the UK had the poll tax riots under Thatcher in 1991. They eventually did for her what Brexit might do for May (sent Thatcher packing, for those who don't know UK history. John Major succeeded her).

 

This is the consequence of Trump's administration policy. Im sure they dont care. Why would they? He's not white and he wasnt born in the USA.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/us-deported-asylum-seeker-murdered-honduras-2018-12

 

Kelly leaving at the end of the year. Nice weekend announcement that Trump hopes the media will bury.

Not a chance.

 

Thatcher's problem was also being too eurosceptic (isn't that ironic now?)

 

Firing Mueller back on the radar?

I’d be surprised if Trump tried, but he’s running out of time—the GOP will soon lose unified control of Washington. Given that McConnell has shown little interest in advancing a “Mueller protection bill”, the next two weeks will be key. It would be insanely stupid for him to do so, but when the walls close in, Trump lashes out. If he’s smart, he’ll wait until a government funding deal is reached before making a move...but he isn’t smart. Just impulsive.

 

That's why we have the option to declare someone else will cast your vote. Technically doable early on voting day itself, if a police officer comes to see for themselves you're hospitalized and can't vote and issues the proper declaration to the town mayor.

 

I don't really think that's sustainable on a large scale though. On any given day, the number of people in the hospital is astronomical. A cop has to go and check on all of them and issue some sort of official report to validate that they're in the hospital?

I support making Election Day a holiday.

 

I gave the technicalities to do it on election day itself - in case you just got hospitalized and have no other choice. If you know ahead of time, you can file for someone else to be your proxy, without involving moving police to you. It's just a matter of filing at the town council and/or sending them the documentation.

 

Figures that Trump sees riots in other country (a country that has officially been an American ally for decades) and mocks them for it. Its scary seeing how many likes his tweets get for kind of stuff.

It sure would be nice if they beefed up the election machines too. There's so many complaints about voter ID yet some of the machines themselves are almost antiquated.