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The host has wide latitude in inviting guests. So I expect Putin, Erdoğan, MBS, Duterte and Kim to be invited as guests by Trump.

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Was Rudy working as Trump's personal attorney or for the State Department, and was he conducting affairs of state or trying to further Trump's presidential campaign, and was what he was doing legal or illegal, to which Trump replies, "what's the difference?"

 

Oh boy.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mick-mulvaney-acknowledges-quid-pro-quo.html

The acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted on Thursday that President Donald Trump withheld foreign aid in order to get Ukraine’s help in the U.S. election.

“We do that all the time with foreign policy,” Mulvaney responded when ABC News reporter Jon Karl pointed out that withholding funding from Ukraine “unless the investigation into the Democrats’ server happens” is a “quid pro quo.”

“Get over it,” he added later. “There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy. ... That is going to happen. Elections have consequences.”

 

There you have it. Reelecting Trump is in the vital national security interests of the United States, so quid pro quo to benefit Trump's reelection campaign is a legitimate tactic to further our security interests through foreign policy. Of course! In legal quarters this is known as the "Rudy's going to federal prison" defense. Maybe Rudy can work out a deal that is good if he decides not to be a tough guy or a fool.

 

Nobody under 50 will get Social Security

 

Seriously, none of us are planning on it. We were told the boomers would eat that money up when we were in grade school. I'm fine with it, because I've always been told that the money would be gone. You know if the Earth doesn't melt down before I'm old enough to collect. In which case it wouldn't matter anyway. So spend that money and enjoy, mom and dad!

 

That is there end game @JEDI-RISING. They want to bankrupt the government so they can get rid of all "entitlement programs". As one my buddy puts it,watching people suffer puts a smile to their face. Sociopaths.

And Mitt Romney is up to something. I don't know if it's him finally gaining a backbone or just being smelly blood in the water with DJT but he certainly up to something.

Edit: Rush Limbaugh is on the radio right now screaming, "Don't believe everything you hear in the media". So Rush is now asking his listeners to not believe what Mick already told us. And it will work somehow.

 

There was no “quid pro quo" regarding Biden.

 

They’ll be in the main house. Western leaders will be relegated to the guest hut.

 

If that happened in a single conversation, I'm not sure how you can jump to that conclusion J-Rod. Seems to me one conversation covered both issues of investigation, and how would the poor Ukranians be able to tell which part was quid pro quo and which wasn't.

 

Yes or no: if Obama or Clinton did any of this, would it be okay?

 

Trump today said the kurds needed 'to be cleaned out'
now ethnic cleansing in the white house

 

also, if there had been a more suitable venue for the G7 summit, of course Trump would have chosen that instead, but no resort in history has ever been more suitable for a summit. This one was perfectly designed to host summits. You think the president should force the summit into an inferior venue merely to avoid profiting from it? And let's be clear, if you're not going to profit from being president, what exactly is the point?

 

Mick Mulvaney is now trying to walk it back. Hate to tell Mick this but this isn't like trying to rescind your impeachments talking points email to the Democrats.....wait this is exactly like that.

 

This blood is on the hands of Trump and every member of his cult. And don't think for a second they wouldn't do it to any or all of us. They'll do whatever Trump says to do. He is their God.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/trump-moodys-analytics-2020-election-model/index.html

Stay vigilant my friends?

 

Right on cue.

Did you finish arranging the deck chairs already?

 

So, Rick Perry resigned, which is somewhat amusing, considering that he implied that he would quit before the year was over. Instead, he wanted to jump ship. Lots of people are abandoning and/or turning on Trump. Not surprising.

 

well Trump did throw him under the bus and blame him for the Ukraine call. no idea why anyone wanted to serve under him. not enough income to make up for legal bills and possible jail time.

 

I've been saying that. Trump will be reelected and he'll never pay for his crimes. The world is a cesspool of filth, and evil will always win. There is no future and no hope. There is nothing but death and then nonexistence.

 

So very very much this.

 

Doesn't matter (and there's plenty of evidence that there was). Mulvaney admitted to a quid pro quo regarding getting a foreign government to investigate the DNC. That's also illegal.

Not to mention that there's no need for a quid pro quo for it to be illegal. All you have to do is ask a foreign government to interfere in an election matter, and mean it. Which his follow-up through a number of staffers and stooges shows.

I've been getting text messages from a Special Forces friend of mine for the past few weeks. The first one on the day of the whistle-blower reveal, the one the day Trump betrayed the Kurds and handed the region to Russia, and the one today, simply said: Yup, he's a traitor.

Sorry, Orange Kylo, it's not just the Bernie Bros or the Squad that want you gone now. Even most of the military thinks you're a vital threat to national security.

 

Wow. I know people who were part of the teams that went into Syria to take chemical weapons away from the Assad regime, and multiple officials in that government fully acknowledge that they've used chemical weapons on people they deem "terrorists." Are you seriously here spreading obvious Russian propaganda, based on one engineer among many saying he wasn't so sure about this one canister being dropped by a plane? And let's say someone placed it there. Where do you think it came from? The OPCW definitely should have handled that minority report differently, as they have handed Russia and Assad an unearned propaganda victory. But that doesn't mean we believe Russia and Assad's obvious BS claims here.

Sorry, but I think I'll go with Human Rights Watch on this one. A tad more credible than governments run by murderers:

Mattis was 4-star General.