The Video Game Draft Version 4.0: IT CAN STOP TIME! (Goooooooo Matches) - Winner: BaSSiL

Yet we assume that FF characters are all what, level 99? And have all spells and items with prep, even if the side quest to get the item takes a player a week to complete? Where is the rule on that?

As a matter of fact, Chim, no they're not. Never have been. Leveling RPG characters to level 99 is almost always a clear case of overkill, and it's never been the standard. Not once, not ever. And no, if the quest for a certain item, weapon or spell is too outlandish, it won't be considered. *gasp* That's part of the reason Knights of the Round is outlawed! Fancy that! Of course, the absurd level of power is grants is another factor, but the fact that one has to go way out of their way for it by doing things that would take well over 24 hours to accomplish may just be the bigger reason.

So, again, why don't you go ahead and decide on your pick insted of going out of your way to take issue with everything I say.

 

A quick question about team Foxhound: This would be as they were in Foxhound? Would Revolver get his experience from MGS 2(grafted arm, etc), or would it be when they were together as Foxhound?

Not really a big deal, just something I was wondering.


Also, just no Magus Sisters? What's the reasoning behind that, and not, say, Anima, who, if you ask me, is a lot more powerful. Maybe that's just my opinion and maybe it is wrong.

 

Ocelot gets his experience from all the games.

And the Magus Sister's seemed equally powerful in terms of offense from what I recall, but the fact that they represent not just one, but three seperate targets (all of which are very tough) that need to be taken down, kinda puts them over the edge. And IIRC, their overdrive just went beyond stupid in terms of damage. Beyond even Anima's.

 

Durron I really wasn't being an ass and I really don't just do or say things to start trouble with you, though you may think so. See this is why we have problems, you assume (you know what happens then) and then you get all defensive. You are always so quick to say I over react and there is a conspiracy of you out to get me, but it seems to me the pot is calling the kettle black on this one. You do jump on things I say too.


Me asking why you hate them is a joke. I was asking because yes you did complain about him last draft. You kept saying that Shadow isn't that powerful, plenty of people can do what he does and are plenty better at it too, blah blah. So are you saying that you didn't complain about him at all then? I remember Zizz trying valiantly to defend Shadow against someone in the last draft and you jumping all over it, just like you do. Then, it's just a guess but the judges were probably like, 'oh well since Durron thinks it...'


When your 'word is law' why should I quest it? I make issues because I don't understand why you do what you do. God forbid I ask a question. It isn't my fault you get all super defensive about things. Look at what I originally said and honestly tell me I was looking for crap from you. Just being the Commissioner doesn't give you any more power, you just get pushy or more so than you usually are. *see above posts* And I'll do whatever I please, such as taking FOREVER to pick if I want, and taking issue with everything' you say if that's the only way you see me asking questions.


Right, they never have been taken as 99s. It has never been said what level they are. Doesn't power change with level? So what level are the FFers taken at then?Is there a standard? Sorry for asking more questions, err I mean taking an issue with everything you say. *sigh* Does that mean with prep the FFers are as powerful as 24 hours of extended game play? I don't really see how that works? RP characters are so vague. Why can't we have GW characters, or WoW then?


And again, I'll take my time as I please to make my pick but thanks for telling me what to do bro.

 

FFers aren't taken at levels, they're taken at game cannon. Cutscenes and things like that. You can't say "My cloud is level 99", because what level is Solid Snake? You can't possibly answer that. So you look at their opposition, and you see what they can do(Think of Kuja flattening the world, etc) in cutscenes, and in storylines.

 

But last I checked MG anything wasn't an RPG though, or is it technically?


I just figured that the games in the draft had an easier way of determining power levels, something uniform maybe? Some FF games don't have cut scenes for instance. Some are even 2D, uber pixilated scroll alongs, correct?

 

What EF said exactly. And I seem to recall that being laid out, multiple times, way back in draft one.

And no, believe me, that's not why we have issues. But I'm not getting into that little conversation.

 

No, it's not. That's the point. What does Snake care if Cloud is a level 99? That's a game mechanic. So you beat Sephiroth faster if all of your guys are level 99, so what? That doesn't change the story at all. If you were level 50 and you scraped out a win it would still have the same ending.

 

I'm still confused as to how highly thought of the Xenosaga characters are. And I'm not trying to slight them or pretend that I know that they aren't that powerful, but I don't recall a formal explanation. I'm talking about skill, speed, and strength here. The only thing I know about them is that they can tear apart mechs with their bare hands. And that Grahf has some other handy skills that come into play. Oh, and that they can kick the living **** out of ostridges.

And I know I had Grahf last time. That selection was made purely on reputation.

Just thought that was fairly relevant to the conversation, and wanted to throw it out there.

Oh, and I'm also still waiting on that formal explanation as to why Shadow isn't as good as I think he is.

 

Ugh. I can't think of a way of explaining in a small paragraph or less, and I have so many better things to do tonight than type out essays. Can't you just go back to the first draft and read that uber-long article I posted on the subject of Grahf? Pretty please?

 

I think Dante is better because he uses more conditioner in his hair. How does he get it so silky smooth? That's what I'd like to know.

 

Put Pacman and Pong on the list, plz, so I actually recognize a name.

kthxbai.

 

Solid Snake is a 20th level Spec Op with an Epic Level Mullet.

 

Haha, probably not Shadow.

Eh, I'll just take your word for it.


How does he get it so silky smooth? That's what I'd like to know.

Vaxadrine.

 

BTW, Xenosaga and Xenogears have no real relation to each other other than the name. Grahf/Fei etc have nothing to do with KOS-MOS/chaos etc. It's like Final Fantasy games.

 

Hmm, 5th and 8th, middle of the pack each round. Quick question, when our turns come around do we post our picks here or PM them?

 

You can PM them to the Commish ahead of time, or post them while you're on the clock.

 

Ah, thanks, I'm usually on so I'll be able to post them on the clock.

 

Ok well I really wanted to go good this draft since it would be a first for me but the allure of the dark side is still too strong. It's just too fun. So with that being said I make the first round, first overall pick of...


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Sephiroth

 

Well, there goes every other competitor who matches up against his number.

 

Yeah that's the general idea of you're first pick.

I did have a hard time picking him though. So many good picks I wanted to make a team out of. I'm just waiting to hear how it wasn't a surprise to go with him, and it is an old pick. Doesn't matter, nothing out there's taking him down. Great individual, great leader. Doesn't get much better than that.

 

You picked a good one, he would have been mine (and probably everyone's) pick as well, since it's fairly easy to argue that nobody can stand against him. From the looks of it everyone worth taking is going to be gone by the time my turn comes around. Anyways, good choice!

 

Round 1

1. Chim - Sephiroth (FF VII)
2. Hammurabi - ON THE CLOCK!
3. captain_fantastic
4. BaSSiL
5. TheManinBlack
6. Inty
7. JK20043
8. The_Loyal_Imperial
9. PRENN
10. Stryker_360
11. Zizz
12. Kiwi

Round 2

1. Kiwi
2. Zizz
3. Stryker_360
4. PRENN
5. The_Loyal_Imperial
6. JK20043
7. Inty
8. TheManinBlack
9. BaSSiL
10. captain_fantastic
11. Hammurabi
12. Chim


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Draft List

Castlevania

Alucard
Juste Belmont
Richter Belmont
Simon Belmont
Soma Cruz
Cursers of Dracula
Ruiners of Portraits

Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross

Crono
Magus
Dalton
Zeal
A Frog and a... Robot?
Crono's Ladies
Magus' Goons
Kid (Cross)
Lynx (Cross)
Serge (Cross)

Devil May Cry

Dante
Lady
Lucia
Nevan
Phantom
Trish
Vergil

Final Fantasy

Terra Branford (VI)
Celes Chere (VI)
Locke Cole (VI)
Edgar Roni Figaro (VI)
Sabin Rene Figaro (VI)
Setzer Gabbiani (VI)
Cyan Garamonde (VI)
Mog (VI)
Relm Arrowny (VI)
Shadow (VI)
Strago Magus (VI)
Kefka (VI)
Ultros (VI)
Cloud Strife (VII)
Barret Wallace (VII)
Tifa Lockheart (VII)
Aerith Gainsborough (VII)
Vincent Valentine (VII)
Red XIII (VII)
Yuffie Kisaragi (VII)
Cid Highwind (VII)
Zack Fair (Crisis Core)
Angeal Hewley (Crisis Core)
Genesis Rhapsodos (Crisis Core)
Squall Leonhart (VIII)
Rinoa Heartilly (VIII)
Quistis Trepe (VIII)
Zell Dincht (VIII)
Irvine Kinneas (VIII)
Selphie Tilmitt (VIII)
Seifer Almasy (VIII)
Esthar's Finest
Zidane Tribal (IX)
Garnet Til Alexandros XVII (IX)
Vivi Ornitier (IX)
Adelbert Steiner (IX)
Freya Crescent (IX)
Amarant Coral (IX)
Eiko Carrol (IX)
Kuja (IX)
Tidus (X)
Auron (X)
Wakka (X)
Kimahri Ronso (X)
Lulu (X)
Rikku (X)
Yuna (X)
Seymour Guado (X)
Ashe (XII) *primarily black mage*
Balthier (XII) *primarily gun user*
Basch fon Ronsenberg (XII) *primarily heavy melee*
Fran (XII) *primarily archer*
Penelo (XII) *primarily white mage*
Vaan (XII) *primarily light melee*
Vayne Carudas Solidor (XII)
Cidolfus Orlandeau (Tactics)
Marche (Tactics Advance)
MontBlanc (Tactics Advance)

Fire Emblem

Ashnard
Griel
Ike
Black Knight
Giffca
King Kilvas
Mist
Oscar
Reyson
Tibarn
Titania

Guilty Gear

Chipp Zanuff
Dizzy
Judgment
Justice
Ky Kiske
Slayer
Sol Badguy
Testament

Jade Empire

The Last Spirit Monk *open palm or closed fist*
Sun Li
Death's Hand
Sagacious Zu
Wild Flower *Chai Ka or Ya Zhen*

Kingdom Hearts

Sora
Riku
Roxas
Xemnas
Saix
Xaldin
Xigbar
Marluxia
Larxene
Lexaeus
Axel
Demyx

Metroid

Samus Aran
Dark Samus
Meta-Ridley
Ghor
Rundas
Gandrayda

Metal Gear

Solid Snake
Liquid Snake
Solidus Snake
Big Boss
Raiden
Gray Fox
Colonel Volgin
The Boss
Foxhound
The Cobras

Mortal Kombat

Liu Kang
Sub-Zero
Raiden
Kung Lao
Scorpion
Reptile
Shang Tsung
Quan Chi
Shao Kahn
Onaga
Motaro
Blaze
Shokans
Edinia
Special Forces
Noob/Smoke
Pointy Teeth
Black Dragons
Red Dragons
Cyborgs

Onimusha

Samanosuke Akechi
Soki
Jubei Yagyu
Jacques Blanc
Nobunaga Oda
Dawn of Dreams

Resident Evil

Alexia Ashford
S.T.A.R.S.
Umbrella
Los Illuminados
Tyrants

Skies of Arcadia

Vyse
Aika
Fina
Piastol
Galcian
Ramirez
Blue Rogues

Sonic the Hedgehog

Sonic
Shadow
Tails
Knuckles
Blaze
Silver

Street Fighter

Ryu
Ken Masters
Akuma
Gill
M. Bison

Suikoden Series

Tir McDohl
Riou
Hugo
Chris Lightfellow
Geddoe
Lazlo
Frey Falenas

 

ERRRRR.........Cloud and Sora (oh by the way where are Donald, Goofy, and King Mickey...all are playable characters and do dersve a spot.)?!?

 

What about them?