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Amph "There's More Than One King" - The MonsterVerse [Godzilla vs Kong]

Discussion in 'Community' started by Eeth-my-Koth, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Oh I know it should be global warming. Global Warming Godzilla! The misunderstood, friendly, giant lizard of environmental catastrophe!
     
  2. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    OH ****!!
     
  3. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    dailyfail
     
  4. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 4

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    I'm sorry, but I can't resist this...

     
  5. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 4

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    Yes, both "Gojira" and "Godzilla, King of the Monsters" features the Ifukube score.
     
  6. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    But Gojira is superior because it doesn't feature Raymond Burr giving "detached white man" perspective on how unbelievably horrible everything is.
     
  7. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Not to mention they completely gutted the ending, because we wouldn't want to suggest our greatest weapon against the Red Menace(TM) is in any way bad.
     
  8. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 4

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    Sorry, but I'm not going to condemn the American version of the original. I think they did an OK job integrating the footage, they did manage to keep a fair amount of the subtext, and it was the first version of the story I saw. And there's a sentimental reason.

    Several years ago, my Dad's VHS copy of "Godzilla, King of the Monsters" got taped over. Seeing as how I was the go-to guy for such things, he asked if I could get him a new DVD copy. I said that I could get him the two-disc release that included the Japanese original, but he said the Raymond Burr version would be fine. So, that's what I got him.

    Later, after he passed away, my Mom gave me the DVD to do with as I wished. I donated it to the library I work at, which had no Godzilla movies in its A/V collection, and made sure the catalog record included that it was donated in my Dad's memory.

    Hey, "Gojira" is a fine movie, but the other one is closer to my heart.
     
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  9. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick Game Host - SfC Part VI BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Just about the same goes for me as well... Godzilla, King of the Monsters! was the first film I can recall ever seeing, my parents taping it off an airing on a local television station, and I was just blown away. I was surprised to learn of it's true origins sometime later in my youth ( :p ), and when I finally got a DVD copy of Gojira in 2004, it was a great, great day in the Tunick household. Though I prefer the original version of the film (it just works so, so much better), the Raymond Burr edition will have its place for me.



    And then there's this:

    [​IMG]


    The oldest toy that I've got... my mom buying it sometime in the 80's (before I was born).
    :D
     
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  10. COMPNOR

    COMPNOR Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Any love for this almost forgotten bit of history?

     
  11. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    My local library a handful of movies. They seem to have all disappeared. [face_plain]
    I need to get me an ultimate collection.
    Even though I loved the hell out of Godzilla, I could never embrace the cartoon. Just didn't do anything for me.
     
  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    "And Godzoooookieeee..."

    They did an animated series for the 98 Zilla too (or at least planned one). Never saw it if they did but it could only have been an improvement...

    This boxset if the films always tempted me back when it was announced around the release of Final Wars:

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That looked terrible
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's like the perfect example of 70's cartoons though- start dramatic and then sharply cut to something ridiculously cute that has been forced into the concept (like Bat-Mite in the 70s Batman cartoon).

    All it's missing is a cameo guest star and the Harlem Globe Trotters. Zoinks!

    (Fun fact: "Zoinks!" will autocorrect into "Zionist!", lol)
     
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  15. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Like, hey, Scoob, the Jews control all the financial institutions of the world as part of a plot by the Illumnati.
     
  16. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Unfortunately the state of Godzilla related boxsets in Region 1 is all over the place. There's a good one containing some of the better Showa films (And, uh, All Monsters Attack!) that was put out by Classic Media, which included their premium release of the original (As opposed to Criterion's premium release of the original). Then the only other option - outside of a bunch of cheap twofer DVDs - is this weird hodgepodge of non-chronological Heisei, most of which are dub only and cropped to fullscreen. So while the Classic Media set is definitely worth the, like, $25 you'll have to drop on Amazon, I'd really just advise tracking the other films down individually.
     
  17. ShaneP

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    As much as I respect Raymond Burr, he was the Ric Olie aka "Captain Obvious" of Godzilla. Gojira is also longer and has a greater coherency as the result of not having those U.S. inserts shoehorned in.

    Edit:

    Although I watched the cartoon when I was a kid, the movies still were king to me. I did have the Godzilla though that fired his fist. Man, that stuff would be illegal in a toy now.

    I own most of the films up to Godzilla 84.
     
  18. solojones

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    I highly doubt it will be campy at all, actually. I was at the Comic Con panel for it last year and I have to tell you, the teaser/concept trailer they released was one of the best teaser trailers I've ever seen. And it was setting a dead serious tone. I can see how this might be problematic in some senses. But I honestly think we'll find soon that they're not going for campy. The teaser trailer was all about the nuclear war allegory.

    It's also maybe the only Comic Con exclusive video that's ever remained exclusive. They really didn't want it getting out and WB cracked down on it. I haven't been able to find it anywhere online. Kind of ironic, since I loved it so much and absolutely everything else from Comic Con is put up by someone eventually, and normally I never care to watch them again.

    Anyway, I'm not saying it's necessarily good or bad to have a totally serious tone. Time will tell. I'm just saying unless something has changed drastically, they are still going with the nuclear bomb allegory and it was a pretty bleak tone.
     
  19. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Well... it could work. Obviously the first film's tone is incredibly serious, but part of me is worried they're going to overcompensate for the general perception of the franchise, and we'll just end up with a hot radioactive mess.
     
  20. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah it's interesting. I mean, I've seen Monsters, the monster film immigration allegory piece by this director. And that's his only other feature, I believe. I mean this guy was totally overwhelmed by the experience of Comic Con. He almost cried. I think this is precisely the film he's always wanted to make, so we'll see. At least it's someone who genuinely cares, not someone just thinking it'd be kind of fun. Monsters was decent, definitely constrained by budget and first time director things. But I thought its use of monster film elements in an allegorical way was interesting and could bode ... at least slightly hopeful for Godzilla?
     
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  21. DarthBoba

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    It was aired and it's on Netflix nowadays.
     
  22. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    Monsters was overrated. I liked it. But it received way too high praise. He did confirm there would be multiple Kaiju. I can dig a serious thriller Godzilla movie with several Kaiju. As long as they're not Godzilla offspring younglings. [face_plain]
     
  23. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    This one was more realistic looking then the original :p
     
  24. Jabbadabbado

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    One of the things I liked about Monsters was the idea of an extraterrestrial presence as an arbitrary infestation. Dangerous and strange and incomprehensible, but not overtly, consciously hostile.
     
  25. COMPNOR

    COMPNOR Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I guess you wouldn't like this then? I mean, this was the stuff dreams were made of for us '70s kids. The good old days, when toys had flying projectiles . . . .

     
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