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Mini Series This Is the Poll: Slave I or Firespray.

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by The Chalk Jedi, Jan 20, 2022.

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Slave I or Firespray? Which name do you like better?

Poll closed Apr 20, 2022.
  1. Slave I. I think references to slavery are cool.

    71.4%
  2. Firespray. As a teen, I set whole fields on fire.

    28.6%
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  1. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The language that we use plays an important causal role in either supporting or resisting implicit (unconscious) bias. This is why the front lines of the cultural wars have long focused on language, and also entertainment, because when people are relaxed as they enjoy film or TV, this is when biases are most easily shaped and formed (when people's guard is down). And the same goes with the kinds of toys we have our children play with, which are just another way of shaping identity -- there have been many studies on this kind of thing, especially in regard to normalizing and programming certain gender roles as "natural."

    So no, it's not trolling to state that if you think it's okay for slavery to be associated with a cool aesthetic, then on some level you don't have a problem with it. That's what implicit bias is all about.

    It's major gaslighting to tell people that "fictional" worlds play no significant role in shaping and supporting cultural beliefs. It's not as though people are able to turn off their beliefs when they're watching a TV show.
     
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  2. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Force Ghost star 5

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    I admit, when I was a preteen, I had a thing for Leia in her firespray outfit.
     
  3. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The worst part is all of this forum content is being backed up on my computer's firespray gunship drive.
     
  4. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    This statement is outrageously stupid and it should actually be edited by moderators. You have gone a step too far here.
     
  5. Logray'sBirdHat

    Logray'sBirdHat Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Yeah, that's pretty silly.

    As usual, the discourse here's the two extremes, with the sense-making middle going unembraced. It's either "they won't say Slave 1 anymore, Star Wars is ruined!" or it's "if you were okay with the name Slave 1 you're a damn dirty Confederate".

    2022.
     
  6. Justus_Cade

    Justus_Cade Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Just saying the name has always been goofy.
     
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  7. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    The fact that slavery happens doesn't mean you agree with it, nor should deleting it from history or how are we supposed to learn that it was wrong? Slave 1 is just a name, at no time were Jango or Boba ever part of the galactic slave trade, but if it causes so much misery then call it by its manufacturing designation on screen.
     
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  8. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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  9. Shadao

    Shadao Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Personally, I think Boba should rename the Firespray Gunship "Respect."

    That way, when Boba says he intends to rule with respect, he literally means it. And rain down fire upon anyone who disrespects him.
     
  10. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Did Boba or Jango ever actually carry slaves on "Slave 1"?
     
  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I don't know. My funny bone?
     
  12. S. Raw Rats

    S. Raw Rats Jedi Knight star 2

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    Slave 1 is a good name for the ship of a Saturday morning cartoon/superhero comic book/Republic serial antagonist (iow, Star Wars), so it was good for the version of Boba in the original movies. I'm amused at the clumsiness of the retcon but don't actually care beyond that. People who are mad about it are weird. At the same time, changing the name would be in perfect step with Boba's face turn. But that requires the story first acknowledging that was the name. Would have made a nice bit of characterization in the last episode. Treating the word 'slave' like some kind of slur is just about as nutty as a being mad at the change, though. Ditto framing "Slave 1 is a good name for a villain ship" into "I lurve slavery!".
     
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  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I'm pretty sure John C. Calhoun posts here, though.
    R-E-S-P-E-C-T, that's what Boba wants to see!
     
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  14. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Chosen One star 4

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    Slightly off-topic....
    Did Din's ship have a name? We all know it as the RazorCrest, but that was also what the Mythrol called it in TM:S1:E1, as if he was identifying the make or model. Unless, the ship's name was well-known.
    The Razor Crest is an ST-70 Assault Ship. Is Razor Crest simply another name for an ST-70 Assault Ship, or was it a unique name for Din's ship?
     
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  15. clone commander bossk

    clone commander bossk Ostrich Velocity Expert star 5

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    Slave 1 all the way.
     
  16. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Edit: nevermind. Not worth it.
     
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  17. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Just ludicrous how he said 'Firespray Gunship'. Just call it 'my ship' FGS, or even 'my Dad's ship'.

    No, that's it's name.

    EG: The USS Franklin is it's name, Big Ben is it's nickname.
     
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  18. Logray'sBirdHat

    Logray'sBirdHat Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Uhh. Fennec probably knows what a Firespray class ship is.

    It works fine, better this way. Sure, "my ship" would suffice, but he's just being a little more specific. "Wanna help me get my Cadillac back?" rather than "wanna help me get my car?".
     
  19. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    It also informs her that the ship he is after will be enough to get the job he referenced done. They were already discussing what he would need in order to pull off his plans and specifying a war wagon makes sense over, "Help me get my rubbish hauler back and then we'll see what we need for the job".
     
  20. Logray'sBirdHat

    Logray'sBirdHat Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Haha, I love the idea that Fennec's first mental visual would be that Boba flies a space dumptruck. [face_rofl]
     
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  21. Jo Lucas

    Jo Lucas Jedi Master star 4

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    Slave I is more elegant, IMO
     
  22. clone commander bossk

    clone commander bossk Ostrich Velocity Expert star 5

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    It just sounds cool


    Cool is good [face_laugh]
     
  23. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    This thread should feel bad for existing.
     
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  24. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This dumb debate has to happen somewhere, I guess.
     
  25. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It really should. And those poll options? FFS.
     
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