TO EPISODEIO III ANETREPSE TA PANTA!AKOUO SXOLIA!

Oxi mono auto,upeiserxomai se alli skini alla me anagazete.., o Sidious eite exei provlepsei me ti logiki pws oi Jedi tha vazan ton Anakin na ton kataskopeusei, eite tou diavase to mualo st'alitheia. O Sidious xerei episis gia ti sxesi Padme-Anakin kai gia tous fovous tou Anakin gia autin. Alli mia epideixi dunamis apo ton Palpatine.Amfivallw(kai den exei deixtei stis tainies) an o Anakin tou empisteuthike to desmo..edw de to xerei oute i auli tou Naboo pou den einai Jedi. To mono pou xerei o Palpatine itan i fasi me tous sand people.

 

103728103 o sidius einai enas panourgos anthropos(?) pou ton exei kuriefsei h skoteinh plevra ths dunamhs gia ta kala!Den einai tuxaio pou aftos itan o Sith Lord!Epaikse kala to paixnidi tou skotonontas ton daskalo tou gia na analabei to arxigiliki ton Sith!
Kserei na xeirizetai thn Dunamh se oles tis tis morfes!Poso mallon sto na diavazei kai na eksousiazei muala!Osoi theloun na katalaboun pos leitourgei h dunamh kai genika o tropos ton jedi, tous parotrino na paiksoun to Jedi Knight Outcast pernontas to meros tou Kyle Katarn,enos Jedi(an hdh den tou exoun kanei!).Ekei lunontai oles oi apories sxetika me thn Dunamh kai thn nootropia ton Jedi alla kai ton Sith!

 

Opa! Pou na ta diavaso ola afta!


Obi-Kris. kapou sto forum to Elliniko, iparxei mia thread gia gamez. An tin vro, tha tin anastiso gia na sxoliasoume kai kanena paixnidi (PC, console, card games, PnPRPG)

 

To order 66 kalutera na kaneis gia ptuxiakh, se vlepo molis teleioneis thn sxolh sou na gineis enas Jedi Master sthn akadhmia ton Jedi!May the Force Be with you,Master!an kai se pernao ena xrono! [...] Kris please as leei o kathenas oti thelei gia opoia skhnh thelei xoris na ton kovei kaneis!Oi jedi pistevoun sthn eleftheria ths apopsis!Eksallou ta dika sou sxolia panta ta lambano upopsin!E re pos kai pos perimeno afto to sxolio sou gia to order 66!Tha to ekdoso to arthro sou!Biblio tha ginei!

MythosP, stin sxoli mou, oi filoi mou HDH me fwnazoune "Master", logw tis enasxolisis mou me to Star Wars, apo tin epoxi tou AOTC akoma! Alla paraeimai semnos gia na apodextw ton titlo.. Oso gia ton tropo pou tha analyoume tis skines tou ROTS, so be it. As grafei o kathenas oti thelei, egw tha synexisw pantws me tin seira, mexri na to kalypsw olo. As sxoliazei opoios thelei panw se ayta kai egw tha tsekarw twn allonwn. Mono min ta kanoume Moister Farmer's Salad



An thelete na proxwrisoume tin analysi parakatw, rikste kammia protasi. Pame apo tin skini pou o Anakin mpainei sto symboulio ws... (dialekste pou stamatame)

 

^ Mechri tin skini sto Gunship! Pame?

 

Hi all!!! Imai newbie to ksero alla exo paratirisi tin sizitisi (imai enas apo autous pou opos ipe o Obi-Kris Kenobi ton fonazoun master, and master HE is pistepste me).

Ofilo na omologiso pos imai action-3D-saberfights-Force powers use fan kai pios tous...gargalai tous dialogous. Gia to kommati pou analioume pragmati o dialogos Obi-Wan kai Anakin prin o deuteros sinantisi "his politicians" inai pragmati autos pou perimena(me) stin PT! Filoi, kollitoi, aderfia pou empisteuontai o enas ston allon tin zoi tous, ola auta fainontai pleon edo ksekathara kai den exoume dialogous stil "...and you will learn your place young one..." ktl. Kata t'alla kali kai i Padme, oraia kai i antidrasi tou Anakin me to neo tis egimosinis,prota ligo sokarismenos mallon skeftomenos tin antidrasi tou council kai meta xaroumenos kai eutixismenos mallon skeftomenos pios tous ..maei kai autous tous losers Pantos apo tin arxi tis tainias mexri autes tis skines auto pou mou arese inai oti vlepoume sinexos ton Anakin na akrovati metaksi autou pou prepi na kani kai autou pou theli, mia maxi pou oso pernai i tainia korifonetai me ta apotelesmata pou oloi kseroume kai tha sizitisoume argotera.

Nothing more na sxoliaso s'autes tis aples skines dialogou pou omos voithane nomizo kai ekselisoun poli kala tin istoria.

Kati asxeto: Gianakin ti idous spathaskia kanis? Ego kanw edw kai tris mines Kendo. Den skeftika na rotiso ton Daskalo gia tin skini pou kovontai ta xeria tou Dooku alla ton rotisa gia tin stigmi pou polemai o Anakin kai o Dooku me ta saber psila afou exi vgi nok out o Obi-Wan kai i apantisi itan apli: Apla theamatiko alla den eksipireti tipota! Telika I love theama

Auta ta oliga tora tha epaneltho me Doctora analisi gia tis skines me ta 3D kai ta saber fights(Gianakin i analisi pou tha figi tha inai epikon diastaseon trust me!). Take care all!

 

Kalos orises Axriel!Kano Mesaioniki Spathaskia k nai,i kinisi iparxei k nai to 80% ton ipoloipon kiniseon sta kainouria eidika SW den iparxoun,einai froufrou!
Starkeiller,poio Gunship?

 

Starkeiller, poio Gunship?

AAAFTO to Gunship.

KAI KALWS TON AZRIEL!!!

 

Ara mexri Mace/Obi/Yoda pou o Yoda tin kanei gia Kashyyyk?

 

^ Oh yep. O Kris tin mageirevei...

 

An einai etsi Obi-Kris passo-apektiktises padawans(ego oxi giati kaneis den me pistevei-katanthsa enas trello-Ben!).Krima giati an kai plhroforikarioi sto tmhma mou eprepe na einai pio psagmenoi!Who cares!

Ennoeis na sunexisoume apo ekei pou bainei sto sumbloulio kai pernei thn luphterh pos den tha ginei master?

An ennoeis aftes tis skhnes, afto pou boro na sxoliaso einai oti o Anakin kserontas oti exei tis plates tou Palpatine bainei kai sthn ousia milaei e opion thelei, me ton tropo pou thelei,zhtaei oti thelei .Hdh mesa tou kuriarxei to misos pou den ton kanane Master!Bebaia omos oi dialogoi metaksu tou Anakin kai oloklhrou tou sumbouliou einai epiblhtikoi!Eidika o tropos me ton opoio o Windu tou pos den tha ton kanoun Master einai...An kapoios anoteros se posto mou milage etsi opos o Windu tha epsaxna gremo na peso!

Meta akolouthei h skhnh?Nomizo sto aeroskafos pou milaei o Yoda,O windu kai o Anakin,pou sxoliazoun thn profhteia kai ton Anakin?

 

An einai etsi Obi-Kris passo-apektiktises padawans(ego oxi giati kaneis den me pistevei-katanthsa enas trello-Ben!).Krima giati an kai plhroforikarioi sto tmhma mou eprepe na einai pio psagmenoi!Who cares!

Ennoeis na sunexisoume apo ekei pou bainei sto sumbloulio kai pernei thn luphterh pos den tha ginei master?

An ennoeis aftes tis skhnes, afto pou boro na sxoliaso einai oti o Anakin kserontas oti exei tis plates tou Palpatine bainei kai sthn ousia milaei e opion thelei, me ton tropo pou thelei,zhtaei oti thelei .Hdh mesa tou kuriarxei to misos pou den ton kanane Master!Bebaia omos oi dialogoi metaksu tou Anakin kai oloklhrou tou sumbouliou einai epiblhtikoi!Eidika o tropos me ton opoio o Windu tou pos den tha ton kanoun Master einai...An kapoios anoteros se posto mou milage etsi opos o Windu tha epsaxna gremo na peso!

Meta akolouthei h skhnh?Nomizo sto aeroskafos pou milaei o Yoda,O windu kai o Obi-Wan (oxi o Obi-Kris!),pou sxoliazoun thn profhteia kai tis prakseis tou Anakin?

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H skini sto Council einai endiktiki tis parakmis twn Jedi. Dexontai ton Anakin, pou ws ena simeio to aksizei na einai mesa, logw Clone Wars, alla perissotero gia na ekmetalleytoun tin kali tou sxesi me ton Palpatine. Ara, kathe allo para "noble" einai. Bebaia, exoume polemo, alla kai pali, den dikaiwlogountai oi Jedi. Poly kali skini pou Anakin leei to "WHAT?" otan o Mace tou arneitai ton titlo tou Master (e kai aytos o Anakin, tetoia kapsa gia to typiko...) kai o Mace tou leei, me oli tin "Samuel L. Jackson Coolness" "Take a seat, young Skywalker!". To yfos tou Obi-Wan, apogoiteymenos kathws blepei oti o Anakin exei wrimasei men, alla me to Council pote den ta pigaine kala kai paramenei etsi.

Sigoura tha emfanistei kapoia EU istoria me ton Yoda kai ta Wookies, afou gi'ayto mas proideazei i frasi tou "Good realtions with the Wookies, I have".


H epomeni skini einai i epistrofi tou Anakin apo to EpII! Katebainontas ta skalia me ton Obi-Wan, gkriniazei, kata tin gnwmi mou, aney logou, giati den ton kanane Master. Ma eisai sto Council kai milas kai apo panw! Alla bebaia, ama sou exei fouskwsei ton egwismo o Palpatine mia 10etia twra... Alla akomi kai i grinia tou den einai toooso athlia opws sto AOTC: O Obi-Wan paramenei iremos kai pragmatika fainetai na einai se dyskoli thesi me tin apostoli tou Anakin. O Anakin den gkriniazei adikaiwlogita alla fernei sto proskinio to ti simainei o Palpatine gi'ayton: Einai filos tou kai mentoras tou. Diladi tosa xronia ton afine o Obi-Wan an blepei ton Palpy, akomi kai afou ksekinisane na to ypopsiazeti to Jedi Order? Poly kali i ataka tou Obi "The Council asks you" pou deixnei oti o Obi-Wan den exei pesei sta idia lathi me tous ypoloipous Masters kai lypatai pragmatika gia tin "ekmetalleysi" tou padawan tou. Poly kales ermineies kai edw (den tha barethw pote na to lew ayto!). Telika par' ola ayta, o Anakin analambanei tin apostoli.



Stin epomeni skini, sto Gunship pou pigainei ton Yoda sto hangar, oi "magoi" tis ILM balthikane na kseperasoune to Gollum kai kanane ton Yoda na steketai stin antilia kai na xaideyei ta mallia tou. Azriel file mou, pisteyw na symfwneis Edw fainetai ksekathara oti o Mace den polypaei ton Anakin kai ton amfisbitei ksekathara. O Obi-Wan exei pisti se ayton kai tin profitia, alla pote den mathame akribws ti leei i profiteia. Mono to oti o Chosen One tha ferei issoropia stin Dynami kai oti tha katastrepsei tous Sith. Ante kala, pam' parakat'. To plano opou ftanoun sto hangar einai koryfaio. Paratirisa oti stin tainia yparxoun polles skines pou ekselissontai se hangar kai landing platforms... Alla ayto teriazei poly sto olo yfos tis tainias kai na pw kai gia tous fans tou EpI, oi dyo tainies kanoun foberi antithesi, afou ola ekselissontai stin fysi enw sto III sxedon synexeia eimaste se industrial periballon.


Tha to proxwrisw ligo parapera kai tha pw kai gia tin skini me tin Padme, opou o Anakin ekfrazei tis amfibolies tou gia tous Jedi kai i Padme ws pros tin Republic. Me to pou antitithetai i Padme, o Anakin kateytheian tin katigorei oti akougetai san Separatist. Kai ayto poly kalos parallilismos me tin skepsi tis Amerikis tou simera. Akomi kai i idia tou i gynaika tou zita na ekmetalleytei to "kone" tou me ton Palpatine. Foberi kinisi tou Lucas na ton parousiasei san ena pioni anamesa stous pantes. Foberoi fwtismoi kai panemorfos o Coruscant apo pisw tous, kathws agkaliazontai. Akomi kai se mikres, sxetika adiafores skines, to ROTS einai toulaxiston endiaferon. Respect!



(Apo dw kai sto eksis einai i foberi kai tromeri skini tis operas. Mia tetoia skini nomizw oti aksizei ton sebasmo kai tin afierwsi ksexwristou post!)


P.S: Na pw ena magalo KALWSILTHES ston filo mou kai padawan mou gia mia aiwniotita, Azriel, o opoios irthe gia na balei plat...eee, gia na syzitaei mazi mas. Tosa xronia sto TFN, twra filotimithike na graftei, giati eide to kalo klima pou epikratei sto elliniko forum. Ara, meridio s'ayto exete kai oloi eseis.

 

Obi-Kris pali kala pou uparxei kai afto to forum kai atoma pou psaxnontai genikos boroun na lene alla kai na akoune tis apopseis tous afova kai me sevasmo!Ekei ofeilete h epituxia tou forum!Giati afto kataferame oloi! Makari h parea mas na htan paradeigma zohs gia ton planhth Ellada! Toulaxiston as kanoume emeis thn diafora esto kai apo edo!

H skhnh sto theatro pistevo einai apo tis pio kathilotikes pou borouse na provlithei!Ena theatriko ergo periergo alla kai prototupo!Ena fantasmagoriko holographic show!

O dialogos Palpatine kai Annakin sto theatro,kai o tropos pou milaei o Palpatine ston Anakin,mou thimizei mia kakobouli nouthesia!Opos kanoun oi politikoi mas gia na peisoun ton xazo lao (kai ego mesa se aftous!)!Den thelo na politikologiso alla se oloklhrh thn eksalogia kurio rolo paizei h politikh kai ta paraskhnia ths politikhs asxeta an efarmozontai se allo galaxia kai se allo topo kai xrono!
Polu oraia perigrafei o Palpatine ton fono pou dieprakse enantion tou Daskalou tou alla kai ton tropo ma ton opoio tou eklepse tis gnoseis tou.An pote ta katafere!

Oi ermhneies kai ta sunaisthimata edo antalasoun theseis sunexos!Katafere o Palpatine na diavasei to adunamo mualo tou Anakin kai tou epebale to ti prepei na kanei gia na sosei thn Padme!

Dikio exeis Obi-Kris kalutera na to pame skhnh-skhnh!Tora katalaba ton logo!esto kai arga!
Mh ginei kanonikh salata opos polu kala sxoliases![/i]
Pantos exoume polu psomi mexri to order 66!

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H skini sto Council einai endiktiki tis parakmis twn Jedi. Dexontai ton Anakin, pou ws ena simeio to aksizei na einai mesa, logw Clone Wars, alla perissotero gia na ekmetalleytoun tin kali tou sxesi me ton Palpatine. Ara, kathe allo para "noble" einai. Bebaia, exoume polemo, alla kai pali, den dikaiwlogountai oi Jedi. Poly kali skini pou Anakin leei to "WHAT?" otan o Mace tou arneitai ton titlo tou Master (e kai aytos o Anakin, tetoia kapsa gia to typiko...) kai o Mace tou leei, me oli tin "Samuel L. Jackson Coolness" "Take a seat, young Skywalker!". To yfos tou Obi-Wan, apogoiteymenos kathws blepei oti o Anakin exei wrimasei men, alla me to Council pote den ta pigaine kala kai paramenei etsi.

Vasika fainetai edo oxi toso i parakmi,alla kirios i diafthora pou exei ferei o polemos akoma kai stous Jedi(fantasteite se olo ton ipoloipo galaksia dld...).Edo exoume k mia mikri anakriveia,kathos sto Ep1 o Ki-Adi mpike sto Council ontas akoma Jedi Knight k afto o Anakin to paravlepei,dioti oso k na orimase exei akoma ta psigmata tou paliou tou eaftou.


H epomeni skini einai i epistrofi tou Anakin apo to EpII! Katebainontas ta skalia me ton Obi-Wan, gkriniazei, kata tin gnwmi mou, aney logou, giati den ton kanane Master. Ma eisai sto Council kai milas kai apo panw! Alla bebaia, ama sou exei fouskwsei ton egwismo o Palpatine mia 10etia twra... Alla akomi kai i grinia tou den einai toooso athlia opws sto AOTC: O Obi-Wan paramenei iremos kai pragmatika fainetai na einai se dyskoli thesi me tin apostoli tou Anakin. O Anakin den gkriniazei adikaiwlogita alla fernei sto proskinio to ti simainei o Palpatine gi'ayton: Einai filos tou kai mentoras tou. Diladi tosa xronia ton afine o Obi-Wan an blepei ton Palpy, akomi kai afou ksekinisane na to ypopsiazeti to Jedi Order? Poly kali i ataka tou Obi "The Council asks you" pou deixnei oti o Obi-Wan den exei pesei sta idia lathi me tous ypoloipous Masters kai lypatai pragmatika gia tin "ekmetalleysi" tou padawan tou. Poly kales ermineies kai edw (den tha barethw pote na to lew ayto!). Telika par' ola ayta, o Anakin analambanei tin apostoli.

Poli sosta.Epistrofi tou Ep2 Anakin k an mou epitrapei,edo elpizo na katalavate oi Bashers tou Hayden sto Ep2 oti o Lucas ton evale na klaigetai etsi epitides gia na fanei i anithesi tou sto Ep3,den eftaige o kaimenos o Hayden.Edo sinexizoume na vlepoume k tin diafthora ton Jedi pou emmesos plin safos pane na kanoun oti paei na kanei k o Sidious.Vromiko paixnidi!O ObiWan ontos einai metaniomenos k sti skini afti thimizei olo k perissotero ton sxoremeno ton Alec!

Stin epomeni skini, sto Gunship pou pigainei ton Yoda sto hangar, oi "magoi" tis ILM balthikane na kseperasoune to Gollum kai kanane ton Yoda na steketai stin antilia kai na xaideyei ta mallia tou. Azriel file mou, pisteyw na symfwneis tongue Edw fainetai ksekathara oti o Mace den polypaei ton Anakin kai ton amfisbitei ksekathara. O Obi-Wan exei pisti se ayton kai tin profitia, alla pote den mathame akribws ti leei i profiteia. Mono to oti o Chosen One tha ferei issoropia stin Dynami kai oti tha katastrepsei tous Sith. Ante kala, pam' parakat'. To plano opou ftanoun sto hangar einai koryfaio. Paratirisa oti stin tainia yparxoun polles skines pou ekselissontai se hangar kai landing platforms... Alla ayto teriazei poly sto olo yfos tis tainias kai na pw kai gia tous fans tou EpI, oi dyo tainies kanoun foberi antithesi, afou ola ekselissontai stin fysi enw sto III sxedon synexeia eimaste se industrial periballon.

Katarxas na po oti oi magoi tis ILM eixan ftiaksei CG xaraktira ton JarJar poli prin tin WETA tou LotR,apla den to anagnorizei kaneis dioti o JarJar apetixe san xaraktiras.Alla i WETA eixe paei stin ILM gia simvoules k voitheia gia to LotR.Na min ksexname poios einai o Master,oxi tpt allo!Oso gia ta ipoloipa,vlepoume mia pliri antistrofi rolon apo to Ep2,pou o Kenobi den empistevotan ton Anakin,eno oi Mace/Yoda eixan tifli empistosini.Tora o Kenobi iperaspizetai k oi alloi 2 ipoptevontai.Mallon i antistrofi irthe apo ola ta katorthomata tou Anakin ston polem

 

Kai vevaia tora mia apo tis kaliteres skines tis Eksalogias:I skini tis Operas!
Ksekiname me ton Anakin na trexei.Tpt aksiosimeioto pera apo tis 2 kores tou Lucas k ton idio ton Theio terma aristera akrivos prin o Anakin mpei stin porta tou thoreiou!O kirios Lucas einai vammenos mple me mov rouxa.Enas dieftharmenos megistanas onomati Baron Papanoida einai o rolos tou!
Pame stin kirios skini.O poli kalos k dikaios Chancellor pliroforei ton Anakin oti oi Ipiresies kataskopeias tou vrikan to limeri tou Grievous,ston Utapau.Ax more,ti kalos,panta prothimos na voithisei tous Jedi?I mipos oxi?Dioti amesos meta petaei to "Tha anisixousa gia tin sofia tou Simvouliou an den epelegan esena na igitheis tis ekstrateias!",afinontas ton Anakin gia alli mia fora anavdo.Exontas dei pos exei psarosei ton Anakin,o Palps tou prosferei thesi dipla tou legontas stous simvoulous tou na figoun me foni idia me ekieni tou Ep6(otan eixe pei stous frourous tou "Guards,leave us!".
Sto teleios psito tora.O Palps dexanei xrono kai ksekinaei tin kouventa ston Anakin gia to pos exoun ksepesei oi Jedi k oti den empistevetai to Simvoulimologei ston Anakin oti fovatai oti to Simvoulio tha ton prodosei k oti oi Jedi den pistevoun pleon sti Dimokratia.Etsi,o Anakin menei anavdos.Omologei me ti seira tou ston Palps oti i pisti tou sto Tagma exei klonistei.O Palps pou fisika kserei,alla einai theikos ithopoios(k o Anakin den einai k to 1o kefali tou galaksia),"mantevei" oti ton valan na ton kataskopevei.O Anakin den exei tpt na pei k sxedon apologeitai me ena "I don't know what to say".
Tora o Palpatine pairnei fora k eksapoliei anoixti prosvoli gia tous Jedi,legontas ston Anakin oti oi Jedi theloun eksousia k oti telika de diaferoun toso poli apo tous Sith.O Anakin paei na mazepsei ta asimazefta k na pei oti oi Jedi einai kaloi k oi Sith kakoi,alla kserei oti oute aftos exei peisei ton eafto tou,oute ton Palps.O telftaios,me ena noima "OK,oti peis k pesto alles 20 fores mpas k to pistepseis k si",stamata tin kouventa.
Meta omos,sinexizei k dithen tipika anaferei tin istoria tou Darth Plagueis tou Sofou.Mia istoria pou oi Jedi de lene pia,opos leei k o idios o Palps.Se afto to simeio o Palps exei ftasei sto pio gloiodes tou,kserontas oti me afto pou tha pei exei ton Anakin sto xeri.O Plagueis eixe tin dinami na epireazei ta midichlorians gia na dimiourgei zoi k na stamata ton thanato.Me ena melistalaxto xamogelo,o Palps exei tin pliri prosoxi tou Anakin,o opoios rota gia epivevaiosi an mporouse na sosei anthropous apo ton thanato.K ekei peftei i theiki ataka tou Palps "The DarkSide of the Force...".O Anakin rota ti sinevi se ekeinon,k edo mpainei k i istoria tou idiou tou Sidious o opoios leei oti o Plagueis fovotan k aftos,sa tous Jedi,na mi xasei tin dinami tou pou telika tin exase.Distixos omos eixe didaksei ta panta ston mathiti tou,xexe,o opoios ton skotose.Edo rixnei ena sardonio xamogelo,anapolontas tous "athlous" tou o Sidious.K kleionoume afti ti theiki skini me tin aporia tou Anakin an mporei na mathei afti ti dinami k tin eksisou diasimi apantisi tou Palps "Oxi apo enan Jedi",kleinontas tou iposineidita to mati oti mono oi Sith mporoun na kataferoun kati tetoio.

Afta apo perigrafi.Oi ithopoiies poli kales,me ton Hayden ton kaimeno na episkiazetai pliros apo ton Ian McDiarmid,o opoios dineiresta edo(k allou,alla edo....asta na pan).Ta effe apistefta stin parastasi tis Operas,sou kanoun mia mikri diafora sto mati k ena mikro dialeimma apo ton vari dialogo pou peftei k xari se afti ti skini mporo na po oti i Ptosi tou Anakin egine pistefti k lian omali.An eleipe esto k mia ataka apo afti ti skini,tha xalage i istoria.Mpravo k ksana mpravo gia mia all-time-classic skini SW!

 

Ti mporei na sumplirwsei kaneis tora pou o giannakin ta eipe toso omorfa kai wraia?

Ontws i skini tis operas einai ena apo ta topika megista tis tainias. Oi logoi einai oi parakatw:

1. Foveri mousiki upokrousi
2. O McDiarmid edwse resta ithopoiias.
3. Polu simantiki stin ploki.
4. Eidame kati pou den eixame dei prwtitera ston kosmo tou star wars kai auto einai mia opera.
5. Leave us..Paizei i mousiki kai o Anakin kathetai ek aristerwn tou Palpatine=ola ta lefta!!!
6. To xamogelo pou erixe ston Anakin otan tou eipe oti mporouse o Darth Plageus na epireazei ta midiclorians to create life einai apisteuto ,to elaxisto pou mporeis na xaraktiriseis.
7. To xamogelo pou dinei legontas "Unfortunately he taught anything he knew to his apprentice who in turn killed him in his sleep"-paraphrasing- prokalei ta idia sunaisthimata me to #6.

Tipota kainourio dld den exw na prosthesw pera apo tis duo erwtiseis pou tha akolouthisoun kai tha parakalesw tous kurious/kuries pou asxolountai me EU(an kai de thewreitai cannon kai profanws mporei na meinoume me tin aporia gia panta) na apantisoun an mporoun.
- Poios dimiourgise ton Anakin..itan i thelisi tis dunamis 'h i thelisi tou Palpatine pou emathe ta kolpa apo ton Plageus.
-Htan o Palpatine o mathitis tou Plageus? An nai poso xronwn einai? An den paizei rolo i ilikia tou Palpatine tote oute oi jedi tha xeran tin istoria tou Plageus giati polu apla den xeran pws oi Sith epestrepsan gia 1000 xronia kai tote mporei na shmainei oti i istoria itan allo ena psemma tou sidious.

Prosdokw se endiaferouses apopseis.

 

^ To E.U. einai mia chara canon, apla ochi TOOOOSO oso oi tainies. Kai dystychws, den xeroume tipota gia tin dimiourgia tou Anakin kai tin ilikia tou Palpatine (an kai prepei logika na einai POOOOOOOLY megalos sto R.o.t.S. afou i fatsa tou exidari einai plastiki cheirourgiki travame apo 'kei, travame apo 'dw me to nysteri). Tha mathoume omws, sigoura... Xeroume omws pws o Plagueis itan Daskalos tou Palpatine. Etsi leei o idios sto novelization tou Ep. III, kai gia afto den tha eiche kanenan logo na pei psemmata.

 

Nomizo den exei na sxoliasoume tipota allo gia thn skhnh mesa sto theatro!Mhn uperbaloume,den einai h kalluterh skhnh se olh thn eksalogia!Exoume dei kaluteres skhnes kai sto idio to ep.3 alla kai sta prohgoumena!Pistevo mia apo tis suglonistikes eikones einai sthn arxh tou ep.3 otan o Anakin kai o Obi, prospathoun na prosedafisoun afto to rimasmeno astroploio kai pera apo thn sunodeia ton maxitikon petagontai iptamena purosvestika gia na svisoun tis foties tou astroploiou kathos prosgeionetai!

 

Hi all again fellow burned ones(to leo kai to xairomai)!

Kat'arxas Giannakin pao xthes mathima Kendo kai rotao ton daskalo gia tin kinisi pou kovi o Anakin ta xeria tou Dooku. Otan katalave ti enoousa kai prin to katalavo kani mia kinisi mou klidoni ta xeria kai "exasa" ta xeria mou! Epatha plaka mages

itan AKRIVWS i idia kinisi!!!Tespa pame stin analisi...

S'auto pou tha po imai KATHETOS!!!Oi JEDI tha 'thelan kai ta pathan! Ektos apo tous 4(Yoda,Windy,Ki-Andi Mudi kai Obi-Wan) mipos ta alla council members itan pio dinata apo ton Anakin? San miges epesan meta apo ton Palpy! Kai telos panton den aksize to rank tou Master o Anakin?Sxedon monos tou girise tin ekbasi tou polemou iper tis Republic (dite ton trito kiklo ton Clone Wars). Alla o panta (opos lei kai o Master mou) bad ass motha ****a Windu tou lei "take a sit young Skywalker". Ligo respect re!!! Den leo kala iperaspistikes ton Coruscant (Clone Wars tritos kiklos pali) alla sigrinetai auto me tis apostoles ana ton galaksia kai sto Outer Rim pou efere eis peras o Anakin me ton Obi-Wan? O Obi-Wan mesa stin sofia tou kounai to kefali ligaki apogoiteumenos kai meta prospathi na ton iremisi legontas tou gia tin megali timi pou tou ekane to council para tin ilikia tou alla foni boontos en ti erimo kai oxi adika.Kai to kerasaki stin tourta...To Jedi Council zitai apo ton Anakin na kani kati enantia sto Jedi Code! I dikaiologia "we are at war Anakin" inai toulaxiston ftini kai auto fainetai oti to siniditopoii kai to Obi-Wan pou lei meta oti den tou to zitai o idios alla "the council does". Epiki i ithopoiia tou Ewan! End of this scene.

Meta exoume ligo mpla mpla me Padme kserete pos den prokitai na grapso polla gia mpla mpla skines (auta ta afino gia ton Master Obi-Kris) me kapies eksairesis vevaia opos...

"THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE IS A PATHWAY TO MANY ABILITIES SOME CONDIDERED TO BE UNNATURAL"!!! Episimos san foititis tou Aristoteliou Panepistimiou Thessalonikis kai epidi i sxoli mou inai dipla stin Nomiki aponemo ston Palpy to anotato ptixio Nomikis me diakrisi stin ritoria kai stin dimagogia!!! Prota ap'ola ti erminia inai auti??? Inai THEOS o McDiarmid!!! Na milai me tosi iremia, sovarotita kai xamogelakia PANTA eki pou prepi mexri kai ego egina seduced otan evlepa tin taimia poso mallon kai o idios o Anakin an ipologisoume ola auta pou tou exoun simvi kai simvainoun...Paratiriste poso manipulative ton pai giro giro prota legontas tou gia ton Grievous, meta "mpaini" sto mialo tou kai ton kani na exi tipsis gi'auto pou tou zitisan oi Jedi kai tsoup...eki pou inai se diskoli thesi o Anakin tou petai kai tin bomba gia to pos mpori na sosi tin Padme! Pai apo Thessaloniki, Athina mesw Aleksandroupolis mono pou stin periptosi mas auto eksipireti APOLITA tous skopous tou! Kai fisika to apokorifoma autou tou dialogou to sxedon blasfimo "Ironic...He could save oters but not himself"! Eki o Palpy inai KAI o Antixristos kai o listis pou blasfimise ston Xristo tin ora tis Staurosis...PRAGMATIKA anatrixiastiki skini!!! Kala oi 3Dies tis operas den paizontai alla exo grapsi meta mia mikroanalisi gia tis 3Dies auton ton skinon...

Meta i mikri skini sto skafos pou o Windu parameni stis thesis tou, o obi-Wan prospathi na tous kathisixasi kai fisika o Yoda pou san na min eftane pou ton ekanan kai close up etsi apla gia na doume ta TELIA textures tou kai ta apira poligona tou ton bazoun kai oi kafroi na akoumpai ta mallia tou!!!

ILM ora 5 to proi. Teliko porisma ton animators pou eftiaksan ton Yoda:

"Wow guys meta apo 6 mines sinexous sxediasmou,apira ksenixtia, akoma pio polles pitses kai coca coles, afou kapsame 13 Athlon 64, xrisimoipoiisame 10 TB skliron diskon, mas xorise i ginaika mas, ta paidia mas mpikan filaki kai ksexasame pos mas lene epitelous to Gollum tha fai tin skoni mas!!!Kai gamw ton kaname ton Yoda! As kanoume tora na piani kai ta mallia tou kai pios ton ..maei ton ipno!"


Meta exi na figi poli analisi me ta Wookies kai tis 3Dies ston Utapao (etsi grafetai???) opou ta kamena palikaria tis ILM doule

 

^ Prwton: Ti ennoeis: "Fellow burned ones?"

Defteron: Min tou dineis kai dikio twra tou Anakin pou den ton kanane Master. Ton dechrtikane gia na kataskopevei ton Palpatine, alla den itan swsti i andidrasi tou. Skoteini Plevra andidrasi, den kanei... Oute tou Obi tou polyarese alla ekane moko san swstos Jedi sto Symvoulio... Pas na andimiliseis twra me ton mutha' ****a' Windu, tha to ekmetaleftei meta kammia gata Sith Lord kai tha se kanei Vader...
Triton: Eisai 3D-as re Azriel?

 

Hdi exoun analysei polloi filoi tin skini, alla ftasame se ena apo ta pio simantika simeia tou ROTS kai kat' epeketasi olou tou Saga! Einai i skini tou theatrou, opou o Palpy gia prwti fora deinei hints gia to poios pragmatika einai kai ta prwta ousiastika stadia tis apoplanisis tou Anakin arxizoun. Opote sas rixnw kai ta dika mou 2 cents...


Fysika i skini ksekina kateytheian me kati poly simantiko: Paratiriste to apokalyptiko forema tis kitrinis Twi'Lek pou anebainei ta skalia tou theatrou, kathws kai to plousio periexomeno tou!







OK, OK, pame kanonika. Tonizw apo tin arxi tin ypoblitiki mousiki tou panmegistou John Williams kai to entypwsiako stisimo tou skinikou, Tha mporouse na einai mia ftini antigrafi tis operas apo to Fifth Element alla telika itan kati to aythentiko. Mon Calamarian Water Opera - Kai gia osous akoma den to paratirisane, o George Lucas kanei to cameo tou, dipla akribws apo tin eisodo twn episimwn, molis mpainei o Anakin. Einai o "Baron Paranoida", profanws aytosarkastiko onoma. Oi erminies einai kai edw "loukoumi" (etsi kai den itane thelane oloi Force Lighting!)

O Palpatine ypodexetai ton Anakin olos glykes kai xamogela, mias kai "brethike" o Grievous. Ton karfwses kai ayton, e Palps?
Paratiriste pws leei glykomilita to "sit down" ston Anakin kai meta pws sklirainei i fwni tou otan leei stous allous "leave us".
Mpainei kateytheian sto thema:



"Anakin, you know I'm not able to rely on the Jedi Council. If they haven't included you in your plot, they soon will."

Spernei tin amfivolia ston - idi tsatismeno kai ksenerwmeno me to Tagma - Anakin!




"You must sense what I have come to suspect... The Jedi Council want to take control of the Republic. They're planning to betray me."

Eeetsi! Esy pou eisai o synousiazwn kai ksylokopwn Jedi, me tin apisteyti dynami kai Dynami, kai me ksereis toso kala, sigoura mporeis na diabaseis to myalo mou. Gleipse Palps, gleipse kai me to salio tha ginei to epomeno Mon Calamari theatre Kai fysika dilwnei kati pou o Anakin agnoei, alla to leei san na einai toso profanes. To kanei na fanei, pws ana o Anakin den symmetasxei sto "sxedio" twn Jedi, aytomatws tha einai kalos.




"-I don't think..." Kati paei na pei o Anakin alla o Palpatine ton kobei...
"Anakin, search your feelings...You know, don't you?

"Your feelings..." and screw tin logiki! Sxedon pisteuw oti o Palpatine mporei na "probalei" feelings kai emotions sto myalo tou Anakin



Ystera o Anakin eksomologei oti i pisti tou stous Jedi exei knonistei kai o Palpy katalabainei oti to sxedio tou epiase. Deite pws sikwnei ta frydia tou olos endiaferon kai kryfi xara.

"They asked you to do something that made you feel dishonest, didn't they?"

Master manipulator o Palps, me swsti epilogi leksewn kai yfous. Fainetai entelws thyma!



"They asked you to spy on me, didn't they?

Edw niwste eleytheroi na to eksigisete opws thelete: Diabase tis skepseis tou Anakin i eixe tosi empistosyni sto sxedio tou o Palps, pou thewrise fysiko oti ayti tha itan i epomeni kinisi twn Jedi? To melistalaxto yfos einai ola ta lefta, san pitsirika pou tou klepsane tis karameles...



O Anakin erxetai ksekathara se dyskoli thesi kai psychologika ayto ton afinei anoixto apenanti ston Palpy. Eseis, an kanete mia asximi praksi se kapoion, athela sas, den thelete na epanorthwsete?

"Remember back to your early teachings: Those who gain power, are afraid to lose it - even the Jedi."

Hm, apo pou kserei o Palpatine ta "early teachings" twn Jedi? Ektos an tou ta eipe o Anakin, alla tha mou arese na katexei tin gnwsi apo...proswpiki peira!. Gia akomi mia fora foberos, strefei ta idia ta didagmata twn Jedi enantiwn tous.



" The Jedi use their power for Good..."
"Good is a point of view, Anakin..."

Hehe, mou arese ayti i rima me to "point of view" pou leei o Obi-Wan ston Luke sto EpVI.

 

Fysika i skini ksekina kateytheian me kati poly simantiko: Paratiriste to apokalyptiko forema tis kitrinis Twi'Lek pou anebainei ta skalia tou theatrou, kathws kai to plousio periexomeno tou!

Emena mou ekane entiposi i polixromia ton thilikon Twilleks. Prasines, mplem kitrines!







OK, OK, pame kanonika. Tonizw apo tin arxi tin ypoblitiki mousiki tou panmegistou John Williams kai to entypwsiako stisimo tou skinikou, Tha mporouse na einai mia ftini antigrafi tis operas apo to Fifth Element alla telika itan kati to aythentiko. Mon Calamarian Water Opera - Kai gia osous akoma den to paratirisane, o George Lucas kanei to cameo tou, dipla akribws apo tin eisodo twn episimwn, molis mpainei o Anakin. Einai o "Baron Paranoida", profanws aytosarkastiko onoma. Oi erminies einai kai edw "loukoumi" (etsi kai den itane thelane oloi Force Lighting!)

Na prostheso oti milouse stin kori tou, i opoia itan kai sti skini pou o Windu ipodexete ton Palpy. Einai alitheia oti stin sfaira vlepeis to kranos to Vader? Prospathisa, alla den eida tipota. Tin Kiriaki tha to ksanado kai elpizo na vro to kranos.


O Palpatine ypodexetai ton Anakin olos glykes kai xamogela, mias kai "brethike" o Grievous. Ton karfwses kai ayton, e Palps?
Paratiriste pws leei glykomilita to "sit down" ston Anakin kai meta pws sklirainei i fwni tou otan leei stous allous "leave us".
Mpainei kateytheian sto thema:

Ton karfose? Mpa, aplos ena ixnos tou vrethike apo tin Clone Intelligence.
Ti leei otan diatazei na figoun? Sithar?
Edo na po pos i mousiki eiani teleia!



"Anakin, you know I'm not able to rely on the Jedi Council. If they haven't included you in your plot, they soon will."

Spernei tin amfivolia ston - idi tsatismeno kai ksenerwmeno me to Tagma - Anakin!

Simfono. Alloste me to na mi se kanoun Master, kati trexei.




"You must sense what I have come to suspect... The Jedi Council want to take control of the Republic. They're planning to betray me."

Eeetsi! Esy pou eisai o synousiazwn kai ksylokopwn Jedi, me tin apisteyti dynami kai Dynami, kai me ksereis toso kala, sigoura mporeis na diabaseis to myalo mou. Gleipse Palps, gleipse kai me to salio tha ginei to epomeno Mon Calamari theatre Kai fysika dilwnei kati pou o Anakin agnoei, alla to leei san na einai toso profanes. To kanei na fanei, pws ana o Anakin den symmetasxei sto "sxedio" twn Jedi, aytomatws tha einai kalos.

Edo o Palps paizei me ti Ani. vasizetai stin filia tous kai tin tifli empistosini pou tou exei, kathos kai stin apogoitefsei me to Council (no Master, den mporoun na ton voithisoun na sosei tin Padme klp)




"-I don't think..." Kati paei na pei o Anakin alla o Palpatine ton kobei...
"Anakin, search your feelings...You know, don't you?

"Your feelings..." and screw tin logiki! Sxedon pisteuw oti o Palpatine mporei na "probalei" feelings kai emotions sto myalo tou Anakin

Politiko mialo. Min ton afiseis na milisei. Diekopte kai sto telos tha se pistepsei. Hmmm...
Sxedon pisteuw oti o Palpatine mporei na "probalei" feelings kai emotions sto myalo tou Anakin
Etsi leo kai ego.


Ystera o Anakin eksomologei oti i pisti tou stous Jedi exei knonistei kai o Palpy katalabainei oti to sxedio tou epiase. Deite pws sikwnei ta frydia tou olos endiaferon kai kryfi xara.

"They asked you to do something that made you feel dishonest, didn't they?"

Master manipulator o Palps, me swsti epilogi leksewn kai yfous. Fainetai entelws thyma!

Tipote na prostheso, den exo.



"They asked you to spy on me, didn't they?

Edw niwste eleytheroi na to eksigisete opws thelete: Diabase tis skepseis tou Anakin i eixe tosi empistosyni sto sxedio tou o Palps, pou thewrise fysiko oti ayti tha itan i epomeni kinisi twn Jedi? To melistalaxto yfos einai ola ta lefta, san pitsirika pou tou klepsane tis karameles...

Den apokleietai na evale korious kai o Dooku protou figei (ksero, paratravigmeno einai, alla... )



Anakin erxetai ksekathara se dyskoli

 

Pros Starkeiler:

1)Fellow burned ones=sinadelfoi "kamenoi" (me to Star Wars fisika san kai mena)

2)Koita den lew pos oi Jedi exoun adiko alla from a certain point of view kai o Anakin exi kapio dikio. Ola ta epixirimata pou provali ston Obi-Wan meta to council meeting exoun mia logiki vasi gi'auto kai ton dikaiologo en meri. Bebaia kai o Anakin den inai kai kanenas agios ksinetai gia dinami kai grigora kiolas kai inai kai ligo ta miala tou parafouskomena (vlepe epiroi apo Palpy) alla to paleui oso mpori to palikari asxeta an sto telos tin kani tin lalakia.

3)3Das genithika 3Das kai tha pethano! Den spoudazo animation apla apo prosopiki empiria kai apo filous pou to katexoun POLI kala to antikimeno kati exo mathi kai krino analogos.

Kata t'alla Obi-Kris kai Obi_one_and_only ta ipate OLA mages! OLA!!! Ti na pw allo ego? Apla thelo na prostheso pos an kai tha mou arese i idea o Palpy na diavazi to mialo tou Anakin oson afora to spy business mallon to katalavaini logo tis empirias kai tis dioratikotitas tou. Eksallou min ksexname pos ektos apo Sith inai kai politikos kai i kataskopia tou itan logiki kinisi apo tin pleura ton Jedi. Auta guys, take care all!!! Anipomono gia tis epomenes skines.........

 

Pame twra gia merika sxolia panw se apopseis allwn filwn.


O gianakin egrapse:


Tora o Palpatine pairnei fora k eksapoliei anoixti prosvoli gia tous Jedi,legontas ston Anakin oti oi Jedi theloun eksousia k oti telika de diaferoun toso poli apo tous Sith.O Anakin paei na mazepsei ta asimazefta k na pei oti oi Jedi einai kaloi k oi Sith kakoi,alla kserei oti oute aftos exei peisei ton eafto tou,oute ton Palps.O telftaios,me ena noima "OK,oti peis k pesto alles 20 fores mpas k to pistepseis k si",stamata tin kouventa.


LOL! Ton kaimeno ton Anakin, exw brethei polles fores stin thesi tou. Oxi bebai dipla se kapoion Sith Lord alla dipla se kapoion pou na kserei fainomenika ta panta kai egw phenomenika tipota...



Edo rixnei ena sardonio xamogelo,anapolontas tous "athlous" tou o Sidious.

Ma einai koryfi, to apolambanw kathe fora pou to blepw (stin antigafi, kserete eseis, i opoia einai kathara gia na boithaei sto grpasimo twn reviews).
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O 103728103 egrapse:

- Poios dimiourgise ton Anakin..itan i thelisi tis dunamis 'h i thelisi tou Palpatine pou emathe ta kolpa apo ton Plageus?

Den tha ithela na isxyei kati tetoio. As meinei kai ligo mystirio stin ypothesi, as einai o Anakin ONTWS o Eklektos kai oxi kapoio genetiko peirama twn Sith. Paratrabietai poly i istoria kata tin gnwmi mou.

Oso gia tin ilikia tou Palpy, mou aresei na ton fantazomai san ena arxaio kako, mazi me ton Plagueis oi dyo arxontes tis skoteinias, mexri pou bebaia o deyteros eipe na parei enan ypnako...
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O Starkeiller egrapse:

To E.U. einai mia chara canon, apla ochi TOOOOSO oso oi tainies.

Kata tin tapeini mou gnwmi, oi tainies den tha eprepe na xreiazontai parapera analysi sto EU, plin isws tou novel tiks kathe tainias. Mou aresei na exw mia poly statheri basi gia kathe xaraktira kai katastasi stis tainies kai apo ekei kai pera epilegw an diabasw EU.
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O MythosP egrpase:


Nomizo den exei na sxoliasoume tipota allo gia thn skhnh mesa sto theatro!Mhn uperbaloume,den einai h kalluterh skhnh se olh thn eksalogia!Exoume dei kaluteres skhnes kai sto idio to ep.3 alla kai sta prohgoumena!Pistevo mia apo tis suglonistikes eikones einai sthn arxh tou ep.3 otan o Anakin kai o Obi, prospathoun na prosedafisoun afto to rimasmeno astroploio kai pera apo thn sunodeia ton maxitikon petagontai iptamena purosvestika gia na svisoun tis foties tou astroploiou kathos prosgeionetai!

"Patience, my Greek friend"! H skini tis prosedafisis exei sxoliastei, toulaxiston apo ton gianakin kai emena stin proigoumeni selida. Allo bebaia an thes na prostheseis kati diko sou - eipame, den yparxoun pleon periorismoi: Sto Greek Forum, exeis tin Dynami! . Alla den mporw na katalabw pws theoreis oti i skini stin opera den einai arketa kali gia na epimeinoume. Eksallou, me ton rythmo pou proxwrame, tha ftasoume sto telos poly syntoma kai meta ti tha sxoliazoume?

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Tade efi Azriel:

Hi all again fellow burned ones...

LOL! Den dieykrinizeis omws, kammenoi apo porwsi i apo kammia lava? Eeeeetsi!?



"Wow guys meta apo 6 mines sinexous sxediasmou,apira ksenixtia, akoma pio polles pitses kai coca coles, afou kapsame 13 Athlon 64, xrisimoipoiisame 10 TB skliron diskon, mas xorise i ginaika mas, ta paidia mas mpikan filaki kai ksexasame pos mas lene epitelous to Gollum tha fai tin skoni mas!!!Kai gamw ton kaname ton Yoda! As kanoume tora na piani kai ta mallia tou kai pios ton ..maei ton ipno!"

Den tha allakseis pote, etsi?

Starkeiller, this is Azriel's mind. Nowhere will you find a more wretched hive for 3D-Love and worshipness...
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O Obi_one_and_only egrapse:


Emena mou ekane entip