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Trying to sort out Boba Fett's escapes from the Sarlacc once and for all

Discussion in 'Literature' started by _ViE_AcheRoN_, Sep 2, 2006.

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  1. _ViE_AcheRoN_

    _ViE_AcheRoN_ Jedi Youngling star 3

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    While perusing the Boba Fett article on Wookieepedia for Bloodlines spoilers, I discovered a point one Wookieepedian made on the talk page which no one has yet addressed in a way that doesn't disregard the canon policy. I'm going to repost what he said here and see if anyone has any ideas.


     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    My recommendation is take the latest source and assume it overrode the others.
     
  3. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The "Ordeal of Boba Fett" story is the biggest wrench in the gears, IMO. Its the main contradiction, since "Jawas of Death" can be retconned more easily. Its possible that its just a secondhand, in-universe tale of the events. [face_thinking]


    In addition to stories, there are also a few pieces of art (and at least one statue) that can be thrown into this mess. IMHO, all four of these images can be made to fit with Fett's final escape from the Sarlacc, after Jawas of Doom.

    [link=http://www.bobafett.com/multimedia/image/cards/swg3-347.jpg]Galaxy Card[/link]
    [link=http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/bounty/print/lithographs-fall.jpg]Dave Dorman art[/link]
    [link=http://www.bobafett.com/multimedia/image/cards/swg_numberneeded04.jpg]Galaxy Card[/link]
    [link=http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw03unlbobafettloose.jpg]Unleashed figure[/link]


    EDIT: Another minor continuity problem is the Fett vs. IG-88 battle over Tatooine. Some sources state that Fett went to Tatooine afterwards; some state that he went to Gall. And the details are different in nearly every retelling (decoys, what weapon he used to kill Iggy, dialog, etc.)
     
  4. Kaje

    Kaje Jedi Master star 4

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    Just ignore "The Ordeal of Boba Fett." Novels should take precedent over sourcebooks.
     
  5. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is getting ridiculous!
     
  6. jSarek

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    Given that it came from a WEG sourcebook, this might be the best bet; "The Ordeal of Boba Fett" is either a faulty witness's tale, or the best reconstruction of events that Voren Na'al was able to make from the evidence he had.

    No, they shouldn't. They should be reconciled as best as possible, and when they can't be completely reconciled, the story to take precedence should be made on a case-by-case basis.
     
  7. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I desperately want an official retcon that tells us that the Fett in Jawas of Doom and Ordeal is in fact Spar, or some other doppleganger.
     
  8. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And in all of those his suit is perfectly complete and clean....
     
  9. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'd make the case that this one could be him falling in, although I don't see any indication of a malfunctioning jetpack, meaning it likely isn't the ROTJ fall. Likewise, I don't know all the lore, and this may have a caption or something stating that it's "Boba Fett escaping the Sarlaac"
     
  10. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think Galaxy cards have lore. And they're technically non-canon, so you can take them with a grain of salt.

    The card could be interpreted either way. On one hand, Fett is obviously falling into the pit, which might mean he fell in or it might mean that he slipped during his escape. On the other hand, he's launching some sort of wire up, which implies that he may escape soon. Whether or not his little trick works is unknown.
     
  11. razzy1319

    razzy1319 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Dave Dorman image and the Unleashed figure could be logical extensions of each other.
     
  12. jSarek

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    Having not seen "Jawas of Doom" myself, could this be his fall back in from that story? Or, at least, the "special edition" version of the fall from that story?
     
  13. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Voren screwed up. Easy fix.

    That Marvel one I see as a bedtime story for the Solo spawn, because really, that comic was pretty bad.
     
  14. jSarek

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    Well, we know for sure that Boba escaped the Sarlacc twice, so one of these has to be true. And I'm pretty sure it was Abel's intent that the other escape was the Jawas of Doom reference.
     
  15. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If we have to include everything (and make Boba's second fall more explainable):

    Boba falls into the Sarlacc after a blind Han hits him with a stick (ROTJ). He escapes with the help of Dengar (Barve/Armor/Payback). He comes back later, intent on killing the Sarlacc. Not yet knowing how large it is, he thinks he can do it in with hand weaponry (admittedly, a lot of it). As he approaches the pit, the Sarlacc shifts, the sand gives way, and Fett falls down. He clambers up (Galaxy Card 1), but is grabbed by Sarlacc tentacles and pulled back down (Dorman/Unleashed). He struggles and fires his gun and flamethrower, but the creature shrugs off the attacks. Fett is dragged down the sand (Dorman), into the pit itself where he fires his jetpack (Unleashed), and finally runs out of fuel. The creature drags him fully into its mouth, and he fires off one last desperate grappling hook (Galaxy Card 2).

    Some time later, Jawas of Doom occurs, and finally Ordeal.
     
  16. razzy1319

    razzy1319 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [image=http://starwars.wikia.com/images/b/b4/DuneSeaSarlacc.jpg]

    or the sarlacc merely suprised him by rising like a damn shai hulud.
     
  17. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Doole's luscious harem, there's nothing anti-canonical about Fett's escape, so don't anyone start it. You saw him fall into a mouth pit. There's nothing to say he was killed and can't get out. I was a wee teen when I read my very first SW comic---Dark Empire issue 3---and it finaled with some zizzing droid saying there was a Mr Fett to see you.

    That must have been electric then.
     
  18. jSarek

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    Nobody has a problem with him falling in and escaping once. It's the second and possibly third times that it happened that's in contention here.
     
  19. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    A Barve Like That is possibly his best written and plotted story. It could take precedence. ;)
     
  20. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Folks, if I drop some paint on the floor when painting my ceiling, I hope you'll all come on over and clear it away for me, right?
     
  21. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes, please.[face_plain]
     
  22. jSarek

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    No, but we'll help you paint a pattern around the spill to make it look like it was supposed to be there all along.
     
  23. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Funniest thread ever.
     
  24. DarthRotten

    DarthRotten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'd like to think that Fett only fell in twice: Once in ROTJ,and the 2nd time in Jawas of Doom. I think the story told in "Ordeal of Boba Fett" is in-universe and incorrect. After all, Boba Fett isn't very talkative and I doubt he gives interviews, especially about the two most embarassing moments in his career.
     
  25. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    The thing is that when we take Jawas of Doom into account, Fett must have escaped the Sarlacc for a thrid time, and the Ordeal story could show what happened after that.

    I like the "Fett vs. Sarlacc" battle for the pre-Jawas of Doom fall. I also always figured that Black Sun had something to do with it--at the end of Bounty Hunter Wars, one of the characters mentions that Fett managed to tick them off, and that they'd be coming after him...but we never saw it.

    TC
     
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