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CT Understanding Luke's Cave vision

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Love SW2012, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. The Quintessential Jedi

    The Quintessential Jedi Jedi Padawan star 1

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    The scene was ominous indeed and Luke failing that test served as a warning for the road to come, Good storytelling.
     
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  2. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    The aspect of this vision that intrigues me is that Luke subconsciously knows that Vader is his father. I didn’t realize that until 2014.

    However, when I first saw the vision as a kid in 1995, I was scared. I was like, “How did Vader find out he was on Dagonah?” I literally believed he was there. And seeing Luke’s face in Vader’s mask was disconcerting as a kid. I also like Yoda’s reaction to all this, since he sensed it. Yoda’s mannerisms and lines help add to how great TESB is. Yoda is probably my favorite character in the Classic Trilogy, with Luke and Leia tied for second.
     
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  3. MidKnighT

    MidKnighT Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    When Luke defeated Vader in ROTJ he was on the verge of giving into the dark side. He came right up to the edge of the point of no return. But in looking at his father then his own hand he realized what he was becoming and at that moment he became a true jedi. Even Palpatine acknowledges is. "So be it...Jedi". Yes Luke failed in the cave and he *almost* failed in ROTJ giving into anger but his greater wisdom and experience with Yoda's teachings in ROTJ kept him from going over the edge. This also confirms that Yoda's teaching of Luke was superior to Obi-Wan's teaching of Anakin in that at the last moment Luke was able to resist the dark side where Anakin could not.
     
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  4. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 7

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    Since TROS introduced cloning Force Users, what if the Vader in the Cave is a clone of Luke? It could explain why Luke says the place is familiar, a bridging of minds with a Clone in the Force.
     
  5. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    The vision of Vader is a manifestation of Luke's subconscious fears. Luke brought that fear with him, and the Force knew how to make use of that. Had Luke not used or moved his lightsaber, the vision of Vader's would have simply phased through him. Plain and simple.