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"Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Super_Battle_Droid, Aug 20, 2005.

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  1. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sure thing. :)
     
  2. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    We'll forgive you this time.

    I'm not sure LFL wants to reveal ol' Grievy's face yet.

    That said, I'll see what I can do.

    Still, are you really sure you want to see it? I remember someone posted a link to a website that revealed Dr. Claw's face. I've never been the same.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  3. Joser_Kyind

    Joser_Kyind Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I refuse to accept that as the face of Dr. Claw![face_plain] [face_worried] :( :_|
    *hides under blanket of denial*
     
  4. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I was hoping it'd be Ian McDiarmid.
     
  5. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Yikes! Did I forget to mention everything I tell you is a lie?

    I recommend practically any of his black and white Mexican films, if you're fortunate enough to have Speak Spanish in your skill stats.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  6. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    >>>Still, are you really sure you want to see it? I remember someone posted a link to a website that revealed Dr. Claw's face. I've never been the same. <<<

    Its like the Holiday Special. When you've never seen it, you really really really wanna see it. (Pretty please?) But after you've seen it, its like... Um? :confused: Did I need to see that? :oops:

    ;)

    Well, except for the Fett cartoon and the Wookiee "porn." :p
     
  7. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Join the party.

    I'm fond of the Destro-like theory. That crazy gauntlet screams metal face to me.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  8. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    >>>Join the party. <<<

    That would be under Leto's blanket, right?

    ;) :p
     
  9. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Good analogy.

    You're an animal.

    Edit: See what I mean?
     
  10. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hey, I put quote marks. [face_not_talking] :p

    Itchy has the dirty mind, not me. [face_mischief] O:)

    EDIT: You win. [face_skull]
     
  11. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    :p

    and everything I tell you is the truth.. but before we get to the shadowmoth tale,I prefer the little lost bantha cub tale to that one..

    hmm.. does this mean when someone is ill, we just need to make abel cry to get his healing tears? or do they just work continuity healing? retcon-tears? yeah o_O
     
  12. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Master Abel Pena, have you fully completed the GG story yet?
     
  13. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Only continuity tears, alas. :_|

    It's finished and reviewed by LFL, AFAIK.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  14. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Eh.... *cough cough*.... um....


    Might I be so terribly bold as to ask for a spoiler?

    Or maybe a semi-spoiler?

    Or maybe even an old idea from the garbage masher?
     
  15. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Warning: folks who hang out at this thread long enough may develop Grievous-like symptoms. Not necessarily a bad thing.


    Well, I couldn't give one at the moment even if I wanted to, since I haven't seen LFL's requested edits.

    BUT...

    What I turned in was basically an ORIGIN piece. So, unless the article is hacked beyond recognition, expect to learn the juicy who, what, when, where, why of good ol' Grievy.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  16. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I'll ask a question you can answer and will allow me to answer it if anyone ever asks me it on the LoT thread.

    How DOES Grevious stack up tactically against Thrawn?
     
  17. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Thrawn gets on Grievous' shoulders. They'd do it the other way around, but let's face it; all that metal is pretty heavy. Plus Grievous might slip on the ysalamiri.
     
  18. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Thrawn on Grevious' shoulders

    "Yes, Yes, use the Art. A Admiral's strength flows from the art but beware of the Noghri. Stab you they will."
     
  19. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    I'll try not to cop out of this one.

    I think Thrawn has the luxury of being written by a single writer (unless you count Michael Allen Horne's contextualization of Thrawn's Empire), and avoids the more sensationalistic characterizations of Grievous that have emerged as a result of appearing more or less simultaneously in almost every entertainment medium. Grievous was written by numerous authors and for different audiences. Because of this, I think the "tactical genius" model for Grievous founders a bit.

    That doesn't mean he's not a heavy hitter when it comes to military know-how. Still, Grievous was ultimately an unwitting pawn of the Sith agenda, so it's hard to gauge just how much of his prowess during the Clone Wars was legit and how much orchestrated by Sidious/Palp's machinations. However, he did kick Huk a**, and, as mentioned above, Horne gives a sobering account of Thrawn's actual accomplishments.

    Okay, okay, Thrawn would probably win. But that's because winning is the fulcrum of the Thrawn character: the tragedy is when he at last loses. Grievous' character isn't built that way. Grievous lost when he became a cyborg... and yet he still lives. That's his tragedy. Beyond that, winning or losing for Grievous is merely a matter of pride; for Thrawn, losing is a matter of essence.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  20. Halagad_Ventor

    Halagad_Ventor Star Wars Author - SWRPG Designer star 4 VIP

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    Yeah, he totally smooshed Sha'Gi after all.


    I'm so easily amused.

    Take care,
    Abel
     
  21. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    That was pretty funny.

    Abel, I'm unaware of the Horne piece you're talking about. Is it an RPG thing?
     
  22. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    It comes from what's perhaps Mr. Horne's masterwork -- rarely, if ever, topped in the years since -- the Dark Empire Sourcebook from West End, a phenomenal evergreen resource of continuity and finesse.
     
  23. Rogue_Follower

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    Yep. He also worked on the Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook.

    Shame I never bought that CSA Sourcebook when I had the chance. :(
     
  24. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Heh. I actually own that. Shows how little attention I pay.
     
  25. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Oh, absolutely -- both of those books are reasons his contributions to the Star Wars saga cannot be underestimated, and it's simply a crying shame his name's not celebrated more on these boards. (Or known, for that matter.)
     
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