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Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Feelicks, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The expectation that the ST be based on nostalgia for the OT befuddles me. The saga is a single narrative told in multiple parts in posterity forever. You wouldn’t want the third act of a play to exist primarily to reminisce about the second act.
     
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  2. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Rey is a good character and rivals Ahsoka in the early seasons of clone wars. She's the female jedi, females look torwards in the future. She's their Luke Skywalker, Anakin and Obi Wan.
     
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  3. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    I did enjoy that each movie of the sequels was one of the Big Three's swan song. They put the past to rest in doing so. The problem arises in that they did so at the expense of fully developing the new heroes.

    Agree. It would have been what Blues Brothers 2000 was to the original Blues Brothers.

    First off, Ahsoka isn't a Jedi. She left the order. I believe Rey will start a new Jedi Order, but I think it'll be akin to the ancient Je'daii Order which was made up of both light and dark side users. Luke was more than capable of starting a new Jedi Order. It shouldn't have waited 30+ years for Rey to come along. And if Luke doesn't start the new Jedi Order, more than likely we don't see Ben fall and Rey rise to counter. So Rey wouldn't be in a position to even start a new Jedi Order.
     
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  4. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You can say Luke is the catalyst of Rey becoming a jedi and restarting the new new jedi order with new ideals.
     
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  5. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    TCW should have had some focus on Mace and Anakin's antagonistic relationship.
     
  6. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree, Mace and Anakin have a strained relationship. I think he fears Skywalker’s power.
     
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  7. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    I imagine the Mace/Anakin relationship parallels the Luke/Ben Solo one - the fear that the pupil may have a tendency to go towards the dark side.
     
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  8. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    And yet Mace uses Vaapad Lightsaber form which requires a use and knowledge of the dark side.
     
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  9. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    Ok sure, but why "and yet"?
     
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  10. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    My point is Mace is not one to judge Anakin for using dark side power.
     
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  11. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    But I wasn't talking about "using dark side power", just talking about going full-blown Sith (or dark side user) - about turning completely to the dark side.
    In the CW era everyone is either a Jedi or a Sith and the movies, IIRC, never specify what "using dark side power" would be, right? Aside from Luke giving a little into his anger in ROTJ but ultimately pulling back.
     
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  12. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    Anakij in TCW and AOTC film uses the dark side to get results, “ends justify the means,” without going Sith. Mace is essentially doung the same with his Vaapad lightsaber form.,
     
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  13. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    I don't dispute that, for sure. But it doesn't have anything to do with what I was saying, does it? :p
     
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  14. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    I don’t think we had a dispute, just a convo on the matter. I suspect Windu coukd be secretly taijted by the dark side nad coukd have become another Exar-Kun. His desire to kill Palpatine, “he’s too dangerious to be left alive,” makes me wonder if he was pulling a Rule of Two move and he was threatened by Anakin because he senses the dark side in him.
     
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  15. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    Yes, exactly. Saying I don't dispute it is the same as saying that I agree with that. ;)
     
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  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 I Am Speaking in Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    All women look towards the future? Men never do? o_O
     
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  17. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have no opinion on the subject matter, but as for the form of the statement, "All X" does not imply "No Y". In context, however, it does seem to imply "Not all Y" or "Not necessarily all Y"
     
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  18. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 8

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    I nearly failed math in high school so you lost me.
     
  19. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    A fellow Arithnostic!
     
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  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 I Am Speaking in Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The statement in question was still generalizing X though. That was my point.
     
  21. Avnar

    Avnar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think he meant this comment in a positive way...? Speaking with Fredrik the other day (hope I'm not off here) I think English might be his second language [face_peace]
     
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  22. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Im from Norway,:p
     
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  23. Avnar

    Avnar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Beautiful country! [face_peace] Yeah, wasn't meant as a slight - was just pointing out that I thought your Rey comment was meant in a positive way.
     
  24. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh, gotcha! But is that necessarily a bad thing, considering archetypes are basically generalizations in the first place?


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  25. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Force Ghost star 6

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    Norway is a grand country.
     
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