ST Vanity Fair's The Rise of Skywalker issue \/ What will it reveal? And so on

Agreed! I haven't been wowed since the Nexu.

 

I find the pictures awesome. I’m more and more puzzled by the absence of masked Kylo from the marketing photos and videos though. I’m beginning to seriously consider that when the mask eventually appears, someone else will be wearing it...

I couldn’t read all the articles from VF but what I’ve read reinforced my theory that Rey and Kylo are Force siblings.

I was very surprised to read that Kylo was fighting the KoR in the trailer, and relieved to learn it was a mistake because it didn’t make any sense. The man that Kylo kills in the trailer doesn’t wear a KoR helmet. I wonder if they couldn’t have inadvertently spoiled that Kylo will really fight the KoR at some point, but not in this scene! A girl can dream.

 

There are a lot to like here. And the Vanity Fair thing is mostly a visual thing. The article is actually a bit boring and gives little away. The American myth about Lucas and Star Wars, i have heard that over and over. Same with JJ and his practical shooting. Its nice. But little new.

The VF shoot is also mostly staged and about getting behind the scene - or a glimpse of it.
They have always been. The best shot, that of Darth Maul fighting Obi Wan in the desert, did not even happen.

The most important thing with the whole VT shoot is:
Its great marketing.

The best thing about it is:
Everything we dont get! ( but we know is coming soon).

 

I hear you on that. Still there is the company line on how Kylo feels the story went and there is the company line for how everyone else sees the story.

That could be the case. Is it possible it's the same ship with an updated model for it's larger role? So it's not actually the same visually, but in movie it's meant to be the same. Also a long time has passed. Maybe it was upgraded in universe.

 

Wow incredible stuff - I'm more pumped now for TROS than I was before !

 

It has to be deliberate.
It certainly isn't merely a case of them forgetting to write in a place for him.

Something's up.

 

Vanity Fair reveals that Kylo is in fact fighting (and killing?) The Knights of Wren in the teaser trailer. They have since retracted that part of the article. My guess is the movie opens with Kylo and the Knights together and when Palpatine comes onto the scene, he orders Kylo to kill them all in a test of loyalty.

And Luke? My crazy theory based on the new photo. Rise of Skywalker is Luke returning from the place where Jedi Souls/Spirits reside to stop Palpatine who has done the same. Possibly resembling the ethereal world of Mortis from the Clone Wars. This is in fact the "Rise of Skywalker" as Luke being the only Jedi who has successfully learned to return.

 

Yeah, ever since that Obi Wan/Maul pic, I take nothing more than what characters will look like from the VF articles. They are nice to look at though.

 

oh yes its totally throwing them under the bus Grow up. * Eye Roll* I remember when people were thinking that Jason Todd or Damian Wayne threw batman 's legacy under the bus . Because they were entitled , Violent , Emo, Killed while the other members of the bat family didnt . Damian Espically is comparable to Ben solo as He's got just as big of expectation as Ben solo does due to Damian being an Al Ghul and a Wayne . Damian is entitled but nothing he does takes away from the Good batman does . Same that Nothing Kylo Ren does takes away from the Good his parents and uncle did.

AND GUESS what when we finally see what happened to make Damian the way he is. it makes perfect sense . His mother was hard on him like her father was to her. He went through the year of Blood (where he killed the league of shadows enemies ) when he was six.











wait for some Back story Before you complete say it throws said parent under the bus


and living up to family legacy is hard especially if you have someone like snoke or in Damian's case his mother & grandfather whispering in their ear and increasing their self doubt and resentment .





Damian becoming Batman



Ben becoming a great Jedi like his uncle , Royalty or a senator like his Grandmother and mother a Smugger like his father

A DARKSIDER/Sith LIKE HIS GRANDFATHER the new Vader

 

Holy crap, putting Kylo next to the likes of Damian Wayne doesn't make me like him more. I'm not sure which character is more of a poopstain on the legacy of their parents, I just know both of them annoy the living hell out of me, and the less characters that are whiny, entitled little brats like them, the better.

No amount of "sympathetic backstory" can save a character when you make them absolutely insufferable a-holes.

 

u have no soul if u don't like Damian when he's with Jon Kent

I don't think they can do anything to make u like him at this point

 

I've heard he's gotten better over time, but I've had little interest in him after his introduction. He had perhaps the worst first impression I've ever had of a fictional character. Simply thinking of him these past few minutes has brought my blood to a boil. I've never wanted to dropkick a child into the next century until I saw Damian Wayne.

 

No, they fixed this information later on. It is on their page (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywoo...knights-of-ren-make-their-long-awaited-return) at the bottom of the article:

Correction: An earlier version of this article mischaracterized a scene including Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren.

 

Not necessarily. There are certain types of people (and romantic pairings) that are simply not cut out to be parents, not matter how hard they try. In the case of Star Wars, Han is a hustler and Leia is a career woman. There's lost of sparks between them, but combinations of personalities like that don't tend to do well in the long term. Yeah it's a deconstruction, but I'm totally fine with that.

 

I am a proud member of the “I don’t like Kylo Ren” fan club.

 

I think that's Kylo Ren's opinion. Look at how good Han and Leia both are with Rey. Look at Han when he confronts Ben Solo in TFA. I think something else happened.

 

I’m not. It does not make Kylo Ren any more sympathetic, and it does a disservice to Han and Leia’s characters.

 

he has gotten better Jon Kent really tempers him.

 

It's been implied that something big definitely happened to cause them to send Ben with Luke, and to cause Han to leave. Leia says something to the effect of "That's when I lost you both." Han says something about them both having to deal with "it" in their own ways (him racing, her politics).

 

I think they are two separate events. The lost them both is Ben destroying the Jedi Temple and killing everyone there. Leia lost Ben, because he's a murdering Dark Side Force user named Kylo Ren. Leia lost Han because Han felt so ashamed and guilty for what happened with his son he just had to go off and do his own thing. Other than Chewie no one Han interacted with probably knew Kylo Ren was his son. The pain was so great in Han, and seeing Leia only made it worse.

I don't think we know yet what caused Leia to send Ben to Luke. My guess is Ben was already working with Snoke and knew exactly what to tell Leia so he'd be sent to Luke's Jedi Temple under the right circumstance to cover what else was going on.

 

im a proud member of the I love kylo fan club bc he had more story, backstory, and character traits in episode 7 than vader did in the entire OT.

to keep it vanity fair, here are mroe images of kylo with no mask, which leads me to believe thats not him fixing the mask in the trailer

 

Yes, I've brought up the idea for years that the conversation in TFA could be recontextualized for a death in the family. In Media Res is where you start in the middle of something and then later on fill in the blanks or explain things. My issue at this point is I think they've waited too long to make good use of some of this stuff since it won't matter on screen for long like the Leia twist at the end of ROTJ.

HAN: There's nothing more we could have done. There's too much Vader in him.
LEIA: That's why I wanted him to train with Luke. I just never should have sent him away. That's when I lost him. That's when I lost you both.
HAN: We both had to deal with it in our own way. I went back to the only thing I was ever any good at.
LEIA: We both did.