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Resource Vehicle and Ships Discussion and Help Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Phantomvector, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    On the rare times where you can find a hull or shield rating for a protagonist starship, and weapons' ratings for other ships, is there any data anywhere, which says what one does to the other?

    For instance, how much turbolaser hits can a Nebulon-B shield, rated at 160 SBD (whatever SBD stands for) withstand?
     
  2. whiskers

    whiskers Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think that was some attempt at explaining gameplay mechanics with some technobabble terms. In game mechanics, using the latest book to have both craft, one turbolaser battery from an Imperial-class Star Destroyer can shred the shields of a Nebulon-B.

    My thoughts would be to keep it realistic, while at the same time keeping it dramatic as you can.
     
  3. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, we're ******* then.

    Thanks ever so much, Whiskers.
     
  4. whiskers

    whiskers Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The truth is that in a straight fight between a 300 meter Nebulon frigate and a 1600 meter ISD, the Imperial ship's going to win 99.9% of the time.
     
  5. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    My GM keeps putting my 600 meter Immobiliser 418 heavy cruiser in dangerous situations, but between games, I managed to get a Serridge SEAL shielding system out of a wrecked (in battle) Nebulon-B, and use it to enhance the interdictor's existing dozen, albeit ****, shield generators.

    Of course, I knew a Neb-B wasn't going to best an ISD, but it can put up a decent fight, or at least hang around, absorbing some shots.

    *Sucks teeth dubiously*
     
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  6. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    Do you guys have a small ship that is not mentioned much and is fast (size wise it must hold some cargo and a few passengers), as well as a non-Imperial shield generator that would be adequate for most situations for said ship?
    I am racking my brain for a few options to look at. I don't really write "new" ships much so this is difficult. :)
     
  7. whiskers

    whiskers Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  8. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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  9. CheckSix

    CheckSix Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Now, this may not be the right place to pose this question; but let me give it a whirl.

    I've seen the schematics for the Venator-class SDs online, but they really are not very detailed. Crew quarters? Admiral quarters? Officers versus enlisted quarters? Dining facilities? Recreation facilities? How many levels from the bridge to the "bilge" (so to speak)? Lift/elevator systems only vertical or also horizontal?

    Can someone recommend a good, extremely detailed guide, or is this one of those areas where some creative license is allowable?
     
  10. whiskers

    whiskers Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I really don't think that it was given that much of a detailed look, CheckSix. The only ships that I think did were Nebulon Bs and Corellian Gunships.

    EDIT: Best thing I can think of is to look at the schematics of aircraft carriers and extrapolate from there.
     
  11. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    There is something that claims to have schematics for all ships of the six films.

    On the Venator, details cover the dorsal hangar (though not clear how it opens), the two towers, and a DBY-827 turbolaser.
     
  12. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    Creative but logical licence is allowed in this situation, CheckSix , since there isn't much detail at all about them that I can recall. For many ships I simply create my own plans and such. :)
     
  13. Lazy K

    Lazy K Jedi Knight star 2

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    As regards fan fiction, I would say that creative license is allowed in everything. But that's just me. :D
     
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  14. CheckSix

    CheckSix Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Thanks for the replies. I worry a bit about writing fanfic for SW; the audience is very detail-oriented, it seems But i feel better already!
     
  15. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Chosen One star 10

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    Even us diehard fleet junkies will allow (and enjoy) creativity as long as it doesn't suspend disbelief entirely, and since you're not having ships fly through black holes or having a Death Star-size superlaser attached to the bow of an ISD, you'll be fine with us too. ;) This is no profic. Unless you want to be super detail oriented, you don't have to be!

    That goes for everyone who may stumble upon this thread. :D
     
  16. stellarmagic01

    stellarmagic01 Jedi Master star 4

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    One thing that has bugged me a bit is the use of the term battery. A lot of times on naval ships an individual turret is a 'battery'. At the same time there's the 'battery' term from ground warfare, which means a collection of guns (usually around 6).

    Sometimes, irritatingly, it seems both of these usages are correct.

    Funny thing, as detail oriented as Star Wars can be... there can be some obvious omissions. For example, take an Imperial Star Destroyer...

    Official Armament:
    6 Heavy Dual Turbolaser Turrets Unknown Type
    2 Heavy Dual Ion Turrets Unknown Type
    3 Triple Medium Turbolaser Turrets Unknown Type
    2 Quad Heavy Tubolaser Turrets Unknown Type... probably Lateral Quad 227 Laser Batteries
    2 Medium Tubolasers Unknown Type
    60 Taim & Bak XX-9 Heavy Turbolasers
    60 Borstel NK-7 Ion Cannons

    Considering the size, I wouldn't be surprised if the Imperial I-class could also have a variable number of smaller 'Point-Defense' guns like the SB-920 laser cannon added through its service life, especially as the threat from starfighters grew more and more apparent.

    Historically ships tend to gain armament as they see more combat experience, and by the time of TFA, I wouldn't be surprised if the Imperial-class ships used have tons more guns bolted on.
     
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  17. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    stellarmagic01 You're probably right, and anyone who would go down such a path need look no further to the patterns established by the United States Navy during World War II. Pearl Harbor was the final proof to us just how dangerous aircraft could be to ships, especially when riding at anchor, so one of the first things we did with those ships still stationed in the Pacific was to slap more AA guns on them—when they could be spared from line service. As newer classes and ships were built, they were armed with increasing numbers of heavy secondary (dual-purpose) armaments and improved anti-aircraft guns like the 40mm Bofors (which began to replace the 1.1in quad mount informally known as the Chicago Piano). This came to a head with the Atlanta-class light cruisers, which literally had more guns on them than they knew what to do with, owing to the lack of room for the necessary fire control directors. Sadly, the Atlanta-class was proved to be ill-suited for surface combat, with the first two ships in the class being lost during night actions around Guadalcanal, and the remaining ships were relegated to the role of anti-air escort (and thus a reclassification as CLAAs).

    Perhaps no other ship in the history of naval warfare is more exemplary of this phenomenon than the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CV-6), which received no less than three different upgrades to her AA self-defense armament.
     
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