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CT "Venerable" Fans: Luke/Leia fan fic/theories prior to ROTJ

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by starbuck_archer, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. starbuck_archer

    starbuck_archer Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Like any fan born after the late 70s, I first experienced the OT as a trilogy from the start. When I saw "Star Wars", I knew from pop culture who Luke Skywalker's father was (thanks newspapers for not giving spoiler alerts). Thanks to a blabby friend,
    I knew who Luke Skywalker's sister was
    halfway through ANH.

    I am assuming there was a lot of fan discussion as to whether Leia would end up in a relationship with Han or Luke, just in underground Star Wars newspapers and magazines (I recall reading a few R-rated SciFi bootleg mags at age 7 that had some interesting things to say about Leia's gold bikini) as opposed to Reddit.

    What were some of the things saying about a L/L or L/H relationship? Were people writing bad slash fic that went into LGBT areas?

    EDIT: I hope no one takes my final comment as being "anti-LGBT" or something. Much of this fic reads more like erotic literature. This is not what I am looking for in Star Wars, personally.
     
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  2. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd The Mandalorian / Manager of WNU/CT/Saga star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I am not sure that the concept of "shipping" existed back then the way it does today, And of course people speculated as to who would end up with who, It was nowhere the way that same conversation would happen today.

    BTW, what is "Venerable" you are referencing in your title?
     
  3. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    He's saying that we're old, Baz. And he's right.
     
  4. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 8

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    Me and my friends discussed whether Han or Luke would end up with Leia. It was the first question i asked my friend after he saw ESB.
     
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  5. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    If people were writing fanfic back then it certainly didn't have the audience that people have with the internet today. It was probably more shared with friends if anything. (Not a fanficcer so I'm guessing). Closest I came to discussion were magazines like Starlog in the US. (I guess I'm 'venerable' - I was an adult in 1977.)
     
  6. Emperor Ferus

    Emperor Ferus Chosen One star 7

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    Sounds very much like modern fandom (I’m thinking Twilight/Hunger Games).

    Were you on Team Han or Team Luke?
     
  7. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 8

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    When Star Wars came out I was team Luke. By the time ESB came out, I was obsessed with Raiders so I had switched to team Han.
     
  8. Emperor Ferus

    Emperor Ferus Chosen One star 7

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    Did you see Raiders in 1980? It came out a year later. Was it some advanced screening? or did you have foresight powers like your fellow Emperor? :p
     
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  9. starbuck_archer

    starbuck_archer Jedi Padawan star 1

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    You guys and gals are the Elders of Star Wars fandom. A certain degree of deference is due, in an odd way because I really wish I had experienced the original trilogy in theaters as a child. I saw the Special Editions in theaters, and i can only imagine what it was like seeing the spectacle of "Star Wars" in 1977: Lucas's effects were the "Avatar" or "Valerian" of their day.

    There aren't many things I wish I could do if I had a time machine:

    -Serve with Wellington at Waterloo when he defeated Napoleon.

    -Be with Easy Company, 501st when they took the Eagle's Nest.

    -Be with Julius Caesar when he Crossed the Rubicon and allegedly said, "the die is cast."

    -See Star Wars, at age 10, in theaters, in 1977.
     
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  10. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd The Mandalorian / Manager of WNU/CT/Saga star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I have changed my title under the avatar to reflect the obvious fact. :)
     
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  11. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    @Bazinga'd - you still need to put the forums you mod somewhere in your title..
     
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  12. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd The Mandalorian / Manager of WNU/CT/Saga star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Done
     
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  13. Mistress_Renata

    Mistress_Renata Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We were late to the show, and since theaters then were sort of like what IMAX is now, when Darth Vader came on screen he was LITERALLY twenty feet tall. Completely blew my mind. I was still in grade school. But yes, it was like nothing I had ever seen before.

    I was rooting for Luke to end up with Leia, and was a bit shocked by the kiss in ESB. The sister thing came out of nowhere.
     
  14. Darth Mikey

    Darth Mikey Jedi Master star 3

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    Going to chime in here. I was born in the early 70's, and I saw every SW movie in the theater during it's original run (so far)...

    Without a doubt, after ANH everyone thought Leia would end up with Luke. It's just the way things worked. The hero and the Princess/Heroine always ended up together.

    After TESB, things changed a bit obviously, but I think most people still expected Luke and Leia to end up together. Especially with Han's fate up in the air. It wasn't a given back then that Han would be rescued. Indeed, we might've seen the last of Han. And with Luke and Leia "together" there at the end...

    Leading onto ROTJ, we all obviously knew Han was going to be back,but what did that mean? One carbonite breath kiss later and we had our answer. BUT the sibling twist still came out of nowhere.
     
  15. Justus_Cade

    Justus_Cade Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Luke and Leia being a romantic couple seemed to be a foregone conclusion for most people. It was practically telegraphed that way in ANH, and the beginning of ESB.

    ESB made it interesting because Han and Leia had developed feelings for each other. Luke has an almost hurt expression when Han talks about it in the medical bay. George was angling for a lover's triangle with those three. I am actually relieved he didn't go that route honestly.

    But I do remember speculation that Luke and Leia would be together, it's funny because I had a friend who didn't think that Harrison Ford would be back for the final episode, thinking Han would be brought back in a future Star Wars movie.
     
  16. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd The Mandalorian / Manager of WNU/CT/Saga star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I dont think the concept og shipping existed back then; certainly not in the way that it does today.
     
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  17. BlackRanger

    BlackRanger Jedi Knight star 3

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    Not in Star Wars fandom, maybe. But the Trekkers had already pioneered it with Kirk/Spock slash fanzines. It took a while for the concept to branch out, evidently.
     
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  18. afterlight

    afterlight Jedi Master star 3

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    This is such a fascinating thread. I’ve come across a few people online who said they shipped L/L back in the day but nobody seems to really talk about it much. I wonder if the sibling reveal makes people feel squeamish about admitting it?
     
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  19. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 8

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    haha just a bad memory. Ford definitely became my favorite actor after Raiders, so after 81 I was a Han guy. I liked Luke as well of course.
     
  20. YT-2400

    YT-2400 Jedi Master star 2

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    I grew up in a rural area so I really didn't have that many friends to discuss this topic with back then and I could only get issues of Starlog occasionally. That being said, I was 5-6 years old when I saw ANH in the theater and I don't recall having much of an idea over whom Leia may end up with. By the time of ESB, I was 8-9 years old and had a slight crush on Leia by then so I was really shocked when she kissed Luke! And then later she kissed Han! What?!

    Hahaha, I guess if anything, I thought this was some kind of love triangle. Especially since Han's fate was left dubious by the end of ESB. If Han died, would Leia turn back to Luke? Which is why the sibling twist in ROTJ was such a shocking reveal for me. It came out of nowhere! In fact, for me, I'd ranked that reveal as more shocking than Vader's reveal in ESB.
     
  21. Binary_Sunset

    Binary_Sunset Force Ghost star 5

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    I first saw Star Wars in 1977 as a 7-year-old. I assumed that Luke would eventually marry Leia, but I didn't give too much thought about that. I thought it weird in 1980 when Leia started kissing Han in TESB.
     
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