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Solo Was the lighting a problem?

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by Jozgar, May 29, 2018.

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Was the lighting a problem?

  1. Nope, I could see everything just fine

    51 vote(s)
    54.8%
  2. Yes, I couldn’t see anything at some points

    42 vote(s)
    45.2%
  1. Jozgar

    Jozgar Jedi Master star 3

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    One of the more common complaints I’ve been hearing about the movie is that the lighting is bad. Some people have said that they had a hard time seeing the action because the film was too dark. Complaints have also been lodged at the “blue tint” of early scenes.

    Personally, I could see everything just fine, so I’m curious how widespread this problem has been. Has anyone experienced these reported lighting issues?
     
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  2. Tyrian

    Tyrian Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I saw the film in 3d, and the 3d glasses exasperated the "film is too dark" problem even more. Absolutely - it was a little too (visually) dark - especially that blue scene sequence where Solo meets Lady Proxima.

    Furthermore, I feel like the film needed a handful more vibrant / bright coloured scenes, just to juxtapose/mix things up - and give the audience a visual palette cleanser. (Like the Gravity Well scene in all its glorious red/orange hues).
     
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  3. Palp_Faction

    Palp_Faction Force Ghost star 4

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    It was like watching a film with sunglasses on - and that was while watching the 2D version.
     
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  4. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    Shoot, I meant to vote "no" but accidentally voted "yes" and I don't see a way to change my vote. I respect this criticism and I get where people are coming from. I didn't love the visuals personally, it was at times hard to see, but honestly it didn't bother me during the movie so I'm not going to knock it. I thought it matched the dark seedy underbelly tone of the film.
     
  5. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Dec 30, 2017
    Yeah, this was a problem, and a bad one. It doesn't make the movie completely unenjoyable, but it is a serious mark against it. It's mind boggling that they didn't realize this was a problem. The entire beginning on Correllia is difficult to watch and then parts on Mimban are bad too. I wonder if it will look better on an HD TV? It's very odd.
     
  6. Organafan

    Organafan Jedi Padawan star 2

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    The light coming through the windows of the yacht made everything inside hard to really see well and look dark.
    I saw it in 2D both times, one time closer to the screen than the other, and I noticed this the first time. This comes at a time when I seem to have gotten more sensitive to light.
     
  7. Cantina Regular

    Cantina Regular Jedi Knight star 3

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    How much of that do you think was caused by the reshoots? I recall reading that Ron Howard reshot some scenes up close to conceal any discrepancies with the backgrounding. Might've also darkened the edges and corners
     
  8. unicorn

    unicorn Chosen One star 4

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    Yes, I'm not sure if it was the theatre I was in but I found Corellia, Mimban and the train heist incredibly dark and hard to see.
     
  9. Gobi-1

    Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The cinematography was intentionally shot to be more moody and dark then previous Star Wars films. I think the major problem is theaters not properly projecting the image. Some theaters will lower the wattage on the projecting bulb in an attempt to make it last longer. I saw Solo at an IMAX and it looked great. I later saw it at my small local theater and it looked really bad and washed out. I saw it again at this same theater in a different smaller auditorium and it looked much better. So obviously there is an issue with the light being projected.

    Although this article by Roger Ebert is seven years old it gives a basic breakdown of theaters not properly projecting films with the correct amount of light.
    https://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/the-dying-of-the-light
     
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  10. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Gotta say, Han throwing the rock to let in the light was super effective.
     
  11. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I wouldn't say it was a problem, but I certainly would've liked not nearly as much when it comes to the dark scenes. Hell, even in other SW movies - say, scenes on Dagobah or Kamino - it isn't nearly as difficult to see

    That was awkwardly worded
     
  12. Jolee Bindo

    Jolee Bindo Jedi Master star 3

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    Didn't think this was a problem at all. I really enjoyed the mood In Proxima's sewer, in fact. The lighting, especially at the start of the film, felt entirely appropriate considering we were seeing what it's like for the lower classes under the Empire's boot. At no point did I have trouble seeing what was going on.
     
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  13. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    It was almost meta how the rock toss altered the cinematography of the entire film up until that point. I have considered whether or not that was a Howard addition to salvage previously shot, existing footage from before he was brought aboard the production but chose to use an actual onscreen action to correct the lighting/palette. It is probably not even remotely the case but it crossed my mind.
     
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  14. Xinau

    Xinau Jedi Master star 4

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  15. icqfreak

    icqfreak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yea it was a very dark film for sure. I could tell what was going on, but I didn't like it. Almost everything was dark or night or overcast or something. I think the only well lit scenes I can recall were the scenes on the planet at the end of the movie, and the outdoor scenes on kessel.

    Heck even the interior falcon shots felt darker than the falcon shots we've seen in the other movies at times.
     
  16. JamieH

    JamieH Jedi Knight star 2

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    I saw no issues with the lighting. Yeah Correlia was dark, as was the casino where they met Lando, but I could clearly see what was going on. If no one was mentioning it I wouldn't have even thought about it.


    Maybe this is dependent on the individual calibration of theaters? Most of the theaters around here are newer or remodeled, so the equipment is pretty good.
     
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  17. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    The first screenings I thought the Corellia scenes were very dark and the battle right after - I couldn't see Rio pull his pants up - but in IMAX I had no issues with the lighting at all.
     
  18. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    I didn't really have a hard time seeing anything but I still thought it was a problem since I didn't like how it looked. Especially Mimban looked like it could have been shot in an empty parking lot with a fog machine.
     
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  19. Ricardo Funes

    Ricardo Funes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I expect they increase the brightness for the Bluray release. I agree it could have been A LITTLE more bright.
     
  20. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    it is very dark. haven't seen it at my local theater yet but the easy one i go to has a darker screen. the trailer was very dark. older theater's equipment isn't bright enough a lot of times. also sometimes adjustments need to be made. it just depends on the theater, the equipment and the staff.
     
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  21. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    I notice the muddy-mustard-mud filter thing, but it was much less mustardy than Blade Runner 2049 :). I wasn't bothered by the darkness. But this reminds me of Black Panther which I watched recently on a small screen and we had to keep the lights off or we couldn't see what was happening at all. We were all complaining about how dark it was. Then I reflected back on how some people pointed out racist comments about the movie being too dark from Chinese viewers, and I began to think people literally complaining about the lighting had a point. In theater, it's so big, the lighting is fine. And with Solo, same thing: the lighting is fine. On a small screen though, I'm not so sure.
     
  22. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Loved it Dark & atmospheric - it gave Solo a more gritty look unlike TLJ......
     
  23. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Everything on Corellia was a real chore to see.
     
  24. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Especially if you wear sunglasses while watching it. :p
     
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  25. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    Apparently it IS a projection issue. If the projection is even slightly off, the look suffers significantly.