ST Were you disappointed that Rey and Finn's relationship never became anything romantic?

Yet, you’ll hear others say Finn was Han.


All in all, it wasn’t a 100% Generation copy. As Finn has traits of Luke, Leia, and Han. Poe has traits of Luke, Leia and Han. And Rey has traits of Luke, Leia and Han.


Edit: that’s easy @christophero30. He was Obi Wan/Qui Gon

 

Its not just about traits. its about who filled in a role. Rey was obviously in the Luke role. repeating several OT beats in the Luke role. Poe has a cockyness thats very reminiscent of Han. abit too much at times tbh. While Finn is in between Rey and Poe in terms of personality but doesn't quite have the Han cockyness. so he is pretty much in the Leia role IMO.

 

Lol that wasn't some foregone conclusion dude, bad writers wrote a bad story. It's not about filling a specific "OT mold" either, because as you guys have already said, none of the characters fit well enough. Same goes for the PT; the roles are similar on the surface, but there's no exact OT mold that the PT characters fit into all the time, because the stories are fundamentally different and have different goals.

The ST writers could've done whatever they wanted, especially with Finn because he was the most unique protagonist TFA introduced, and as I've said before, **** was getting real at the end of TFA. Both Finn and Rey were desperate not to lose the other, and there was power in the idea that neither of them had someone care for them before they met each other. The writers were limited only by their own creativity/ego/biases.

 

But would Rey have been a romantic lead since she was Luke’s successor?

 

I never see any Han Solo in Finn. if you go by the type of cocky or slightly overconfident character Han is, its certainly not Finn.

Finn is an example of an OT grounded character. which is what JJ was going for. thats why we got all the WOO!SBut he certainly was no Han Solo.

I know some people say that the whole him being a stormtrooper was unique, but to me its about as Unique as "they fly now". i feel like its not a concept thats strange to Star wars, its just strange to the OT. and thats why the storm trooper thing never really hit home for me. even more so when they are still used as expendable troops that even Finn is fine to kill and WOO! about. and Finn won't WOO!'s because remember that time in episode 4 when Luke and Han were blasting ships in the falcon? makes it more exciting if they throw out some pride in their victory!

 

If Poe is Han and Leia is Finn... whose on first base???

 

Were you disappointed by [insert literally anything from the ST]?

Yes.

 

I don't know whether or not the discussion was in favor of that.

 

Eh. I think Finn has a similar arc within TFA, as a Han does in ANH, with going from being selfish to taking a heroic action. Yes, I think the Han as a character is divided between Poe and Finn, but I think there's some of Han in Finn. While Poe has a bit of Leia in his character function in TFA. And I think there's a little Leia thrown into Rey's function within the plot at the end in her being kidnapped and held by the black clad villain, who interrogates her for information.

 

Lots of female fans were obsessed with Rey Kylo and started shipping them and talked about their 'sexual chemistry'. This is simple undeniable. Women are the fans of most romantic stories. Very few men care about romance.

Check out Fanfiction.net. Lots of fanfictions about Rey Kylo, their children etc. on that site. Who wrote these? Not the male fans.

I'm not mansplaining anything lol. Stories like 50 shades of grey, Twilight, 365 days.....where the woman has gets with a bad guy and has to fix him are very popular among women. It's an age old trope in fantasy stories like Beauty and the Beast. I'm not stereotyping women. These things are very popular among women and are best sellers. It's not the men watching and reading these types of romantic stories.

 

That's enough repeated warnings for this... enjoy your vacation.

 

So - watched Last Jedi last night(in 3D on my OLED ). The first person Finn is thinking of when he comes out of his coma is Rey. He asks where she is first when Poe helps him unhook the tubing. Then, he clearly wants to find her and makes that his sole "mission" at that point when Rose busts him. Rey also says to Chewie "If you see Finn.....(Chewie barks a few lines) yes, tell Finn that" before she goes of to confront Kylo. We dont know what Chewie actually said to her but again, she was thinking of Finn during a tough/stressful time. Then, towards the very end when Finn is checking on Rose in th Falcon, Rey throws him a look that appreciates that he's being kind to Rose but also maybe a *little* disappointment too.

So, yeah, its ALL there in TFA and I think most of the way through TLJ that ReyFinn should have been an item. I'll always fee that was a hugely missed opportunity. And, I hated Reylo to make matters even worse. Now of course Im on the last film which is clearly my least favorite. Ugh. TROS is barely watchable. I could almost end the sequels/entire saga after Last Jedi. Luke had a beautiful death, Kylo is still bad, Rey is a mystery which is OK with me and the resistance is in the same spot as usual. Even better? Palpatine is still NOT a factor and remains gone aka the end of ROTJ & Anakins sacrifice stay 100% valid.

 

I don't think saying that women like something is the same as stereotyping as all women do, or saying you do. Now this:

I think is stereotyping both men and women. In what I think is the suggestion that only women read/write these stories. I've read bad boy good girl fanfic. I wouldn't put money on some men not writing it as well. I've written romance fanfic in the past.

I don't think Twilight has the woman fixing the bad boy.

 

thought they had friend zone all over them from day one

 

i just don't think there is much romance in the ST

 

Call it toxic, stalkery, obsessive, co-dependent or controlling or whathaveyou, but I wouldn't accuse Edward of trying to hurt/kill people Bella cares about, on purpose, or even necessarily hurt Bella on purpose in that way. His character, in the movies anyway, being someone who has a darker past, when Bella meets him, is someone trying to live a peaceful non-violent, co-existence with people that he may want to feed on. I think TLJ doesn't quite see the balance between the bad boy being dangerous and/or mysterious and actually being an active clear and present danger to the people the female protagonist good girl cares about. I think The Vampire Diaries really tows that line of not seeing the balance a lot as well, but seems to try, moreso in the early seasons, to keep it so the good girl stays at odds with the bad boy when he's being bad.

 

I didn’t really “feel” any romantic chemistry between Rey and Finn, so it didn’t bother me that the potential romance there was dropped.

That being said, what DID bother me was that the romantic feelings between Finn and Rose at the end of TLJ were just ignored completely in TRoS.

 

I suspect a lot of people did not want a biracial romance between a black man and a white woman, acting as leads in a Star Wars movie. Am I accusing part of the Star Wars fandom of racism? If I must honest . . . yes. Does this mean I believe Lucasfilm was right not to allow Finn and Rey to become romantically involved? No. I think Lucasfilm and Disney should have shown some balls and allowed the romance to proceed. To this day, despite shows like "The Mandalorian" or movies like "Rogue One" and "Solo", I have nothing but deep-seated contempt toward Lucasfilm and Disney for their cowardice.

 

This. If the trilogy handled things better, with character development and everything else, I would have been cool with it. Ugh I'm still upset with Finn in TLJ.