ST What does the ST add to the Saga? What is its story purpose?

I, like a host of others, left TFA with such a sense of relief. It did what it needed to do. It was too much of an ANH rehash, but it felt right. The PT absurdity was gone.
I'll leave my criticism with this - remember obi wan riding a stupid dinosaur? I do. Can't forget it.

They don't need to be the OT. But that is the feel they need to have. I'm not sure Solo had it.
I can't even know how to respond to 'The ST doesn't progress the story.' I literally don't understand that criticism. The saga films live in the saga. For the saga to continue, progressing out into some completely new conflict isn't an option. The basic story of the rise and fall of the galactic empire is the saga boundary. They did things to allow that to be continued and ultimately finished. Ultimately I see most of the TLJ/ST criticism in this light - people wanted the saga to step outside of the saga while letting the old guys have another on screen adventure. I don't think either of those could happen in a good story. Doesn't mean you have to like what we got, but I think the basics of what a lot of people wanted are dq'd from the inception.

 

Call it a rehash if you like. I don't think we'll be saying that in the end. I don't think you can say that about TLJ. It's a fair TFA criticism.

Look I defend the prequels to people that really hate them. But they were just not good. One more shot of that originality would have been the end. Doesn't mean we need a rehash, but we needed the feel to be right, and I'll say the the feel of the PT was drastically wrong.

 

Luke didn't care about saving vader in ESB.

 

I missed the ROTJ part.

 

That was kind. Can we get back to calling eachother stupid now?

 

George wanted more to the saga after RotJ, seems the simplest & obvious explanation.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure what the point of the ST was (story-wise), even in George's version. It seems like anything more than the original 6 would just be an addendum, rather than an essential part of the story, which is what it should be. I would be interested to see how it would've played out.

As it stands now, it seems kind of unnecessary.

 

The Star Wars Sequels are like Dragon Ball Super unnecessary and disappointed
Just an easy nostalgic cash grab

 

Yeah, that was pretty awesome.

 

Yeah, Obi-Wan Kenobi riding a dinosaur is a thousand times more awesome than anything TFA. That film was such a poor foundation for any future films. It didn't have anything to say and simply ripped off A New Hope without any of the emotional or thematic core. Say what you will about TLJ but at least it was actually about something.

 

Obi-Wan riding a dinosaur was fantastic. TFA and TLJ were not.

 

It's weird to even bring up Obi-on-a-dinosaur in this context imo because the rathtars exist. I mean, if Obi riding a dinosaur is bothersome, I would think Han hauling killer octopuses would also be bothersome. I prefer Obi on the dinosaur myself. In addition to looking cooler, it was interesting world building, which I dig and which the STs lacks.

 

I guess I'm at a loss as to why Obi-wan riding a veractyl is suddenly bad. Is hating that scene a thing now? I can't keep track of what I'm supposed to hate about the prequels.

 

One time I was watching Star Wars and I saw a stormtrooper sitting on a dinosaur and Sand People riding woolly mammoths.

 

All this rehash nonesense...star wars films are meant to rhyme and mirror

 

I like both tho the CGI wasn't up to the Job in clones so looks naff. Anakin riding the thing in the field is unforgivably bad which is a shame as I liked the waterfall scene. ST has up to date production values so looks less false. I like it all tho.

 

It started with TFA and its decision to mirror Luke's story [arguably] for the third time (if you go by the kid from a dusty planet becoming a Jedi angle, so you'd include Anakin there). What else can you really do if that's what you're working with?

If it was me, I would have used Leia as the template and had Rey be an adopted daughter of a rich family on a peaceful planet. You still have your 'rhyme' if that's part of the remit whilst simultaneously giving us something we haven't seen, but whatever.

 

OT = A hero’s journey
PT = A hero’s tragedy
ST = A heroine’s journey

As you can see, the Prequel trilogy and Sequel trilogy, are each variations of the Orginal trilogy by changing one word from the OT description.