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whats wrong with Jailbait

Discussion in 'Communications' started by beezel26, Jul 23, 2005.

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  1. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    whats wrong with calling someone Jailbait especially when they intentionally flirt with the whole JC and they are under 18.

    now granted this is only for us people over 18.

    Under 18 it makes little difference.

    The way I see it calling someone Jailbait basically means the user understands that the poster is too young and shouldnt be thought of in that manner. Instead of being offensive it should a reassuring feeling to the young poster. At least they know the line of morality and arent willing to cross it. Even if the young poster is or isnt intentionally flirting with them.

    Many a woman who posts their picture anywhere here is always in danger of getting harrassed.

    heck a few of them have.

    I have seen too many older guys say Id hit it to underage girls when they post their picture.
    Its disgraceful.

    droideka EDIT: temporarily locking until a comms mod is online to decide what to do with this thread, since it's turned into two users snipping at eachother and there's really no where further for this thread to go
     
  2. ZebulaNebula

    ZebulaNebula Jedi Master star 5

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    If it weren't for this litigation-happy society, I'd say 'nothing'. But you can get sued for about anything these days, so I wouldn't do it.
     
  3. moosemousse

    moosemousse CR Emeritus: FF-UK South star 6

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    It depends on the age gap. If the guy is 20 or younger and the girl is 17 then it's not so bad, but if the guy is 25 and the girl is 16 then it's kinda bad.

    As I understand it, the term 'jailbait' applies to someone under the legal age but can easily be seen to be older, like someone who looks 18/19 but is actually 16. If it was me I'd take it as a compliment, but I'm old so it's never going to happen.

    As a side note, anyone who is harrased should contact a mod about it, the harraser should be banned, maybe permabanned.
     
  4. Dark_Lady_Jada

    Dark_Lady_Jada Jedi Knight star 5

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    Did you get editted for using that?

    I know that there is a user that frequents a YJCC thread who is fondly termed "jailbait" as a nickname.

     
  5. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    I didnt but the person in question took offense to it and a mod came to their side.

    Its better for a person to call someone Jailbait then to say flirt with an underage user and actively seek their company.

    It shows they are aware of what is acceptable and willing to act in the young posters best interest.

    And that interest is to think about it as wrong and inappropriate.

    The JCC is no place for older users above 18 to flirt with underage users. Its inappropriate and shouldnt be tolerated by the mods.

     
  6. DVeditor

    DVeditor Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would say that calling anyone a term like that is asking for trouble. Harassment should not be tolerated, but name calling is even more childish IMHO.

    If there's a problem with another user's actions (regardless of their age) then you can always drop them a courteous PM explaining your concerns. However if there's a problem with another user generally the best thing to do is PM a mod.

    Just my two cents.
     
  7. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In my opinion all it takes is one time of someone saying "I really don't like you calling me ___ please stop" and then it is inappropriate to continue. That can go for joke names, nicknames, mocking names... anything.

    Jailbait is not going to become a banned word, there are many instances where it is appropriate, but if someone doesn't like being called that, and you are aware of it, don't do it.

    IMO, jailbait just means an underage girl that is attractive to an older guy. in the us, since that is 18, that can often be a close gap, but when it isn't, it can border on creepy or just be flat out creepy to hear it, and in that case, is not appropriate.

     
  8. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    http://www.nbc6.net/nbc6investigates/1315942/detail.html

    The reason the guys call Handmaiden Yane and Ostrich Stapler Jailbait isnt because of their age.

    Its because they are under age and on top of it they intentionally post as many pics of themselves in seductive poses in anything from tight dresses to school girl outfits.

    Its barely legal porn. It gets really annoying after a while. A guy could get fired from his job he had the thread on his screen at work.

    Heck the entire thread is laced with their pictures over and over again to get the guys going.
    And ladies you know its true. They flirt with the boys and with disaster and dont care.


    Its degrading to the owners and to this site to have young girls posting as many pics as they can in a barely legal fashion. We are a family site. Not a site for perverts and creeps.

    I want it to stop. There are those of us who as adults dont appreciate girls doing this. Thats why we call them Jailbait. We want nothing to do with them. Yet still they keep posting their pics.

    I doubt you will even find two other girls like that in that thread. Its indecent and degrading what they do. And I for one have had enough. The JCC shouldnt be a den of barely legal kiddie porn.

    Oh and for everyone info Ostrich Stapler is 15.
    http://boards.theforce.net/Your_Jedi_Council_Community/b10008/17958817/?35
    Thats her birthday thread.
    Yane is Sixteen.



     
  9. ask-the-younglings

    ask-the-younglings Jedi Youngling star 5

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    whats wrong with Jailbait

    Damned good for shark fishing, I'd imagine - not much cop for any other fish, though.
     
  10. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A guy could get fired from his job he had the thread on his screen at work.

    A guy could get fired for having *any* page of the JC on his screen at work. You are paid to work, not surf SW messageboards.

    If the photos posted by any member of the JC bothers you then DON'T OPEN THE THREADS - problem solved. The girls here for the most part are not naive, and *are* internet savy. They don't post home addresses with a "come visit me" tagline. They are having their fun at the expense of the internet fanboy, and power to them!!

    It's nothing compared to the 'risk' the put themselves at by walking down the street on a daily basis.

    For me the term "jailbait" has negative connotations, somewhere between "lolita", and "**** tease", so I wouldn't suggest using it.


    edit

    beezel - your constant concentration on the age and photos of girls on these messageboards kinda worries me.
     
  11. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    There's room for someone else on the couch, you know...

    [edited]

    copied directly from the picture thread in the JCC.

    And there are least four guys that were enticed.

    and she is fifteen.

    Is this not wrong. Is this not indecent and against the TOS. Shes a minor. And shes enjoying the attention. Thats why they call her Jailbait.

    http://boards.theforce.net/Your_Jedi_Council_Community/b10008/15644470/p124

    Theres the thread in question.

    malkie edit posting a user's photo without permission is against the rules - don't do it again.
     
  12. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    beezel - Comms isn't for calling out a single group or person.


    p.s. there are various help groups you can attend in your local area.
     
  13. FORCEFED

    FORCEFED Jedi Master star 5

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    cry. for. help.






    FF
     
  14. FlareStorm

    FlareStorm Jedi Master star 6

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    There's a Marvel Comics character named Jailbait. It still passes the comic code
     
  15. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    beezel, I don't see anything inappropriate with the pictures you're referring to. It sounds almost as if you are the one having problems with seeing pictures of young girls, not the general JC populance. You talk about said users enjoying the attention they receive, yet by posting this you are giving them more attention than they would get in the thread you linked.
     
  16. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I couldn't have put it much better myself
     
  17. FORCEFED

    FORCEFED Jedi Master star 5

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    crikey penfold! malkie and i agree on something! :p


    FF
     
  18. poof-the-magic-jedi

    poof-the-magic-jedi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Bah, I clicked that thread looking for this alleged "porn" and all I found was a bunch of goofy looking guys. What a waste of time.
     
  19. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    the end of the internet is upon us :(
     
  20. FORCEFED

    FORCEFED Jedi Master star 5

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    No, just the end of theforce.net!!!!

    MUHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHA!!!


    FF
     
  21. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    Ousley I agree with you on that.

    I am giving them additional attention.

    But the point of this discussion isnt just them or me its where is the line?

    Ok, porn is bad. Kiddie porn is bad. But when a minor posts a picture like she did and invites guys to join her. Or they post Id hit it or worse it goes over the line.

    Ok, if the guys asking her were nineteen or twenty maybe I might have a problem but when its guys my age and older it goes beyond what is considered appropriate for a family forum.

    WOuldnt it be considered Sexual harrassment of a minor?



    And before you continue to harrass me and call me creepy lets agree that a few souls also took offense to the word Retarded and had the word banned.

    So lets keep this civil and lets stop degrading this into a Beezel is creepy thread.
     
  22. Darth_Daver

    Darth_Daver Jedi Knight star 5

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    "But when a minor posts a picture like she did" - which is within the rules or it would be removed.

    "WOuldnt it be considered Sexual harrassment of a minor?" - wouldn't what be considered harrassment? Just saying "I'd hit it"? Either that's a joke, or the person saying it is, er, creepy, and at least is letting everyone know that:p


    As for it being "barely legal porn", it's not porn (not even close) and - as you keep saying - if it were, it wouldn't be legal.
     
  23. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What exactly are you suggesting? Sounds like you think we need to ban all underage females from posting fully clothed pictures of themselves. Obvious the girls you are referring to are smart enough to understand what they are doing and also to know when someone is joking or when they are not. If either of them had an issue with the way people were posting, they would report it to a moderator or administrator. So, essentially, you're saying that the girls should be punished for posting pictures that males might find attractive. It is the responsibility of the male to keep his mind under control and post within the rules. It would only be harrassment if the girls saw it as such, which they clearly do not.
     
  24. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    Ousley what you are saying is that its ok if the girls have no problem with posting the pictures then they can post away.

    But if us as guys get offended by it and call them jailbait, its a flame and we are the ones that should have to deal with the consequences.

    Apparently its ok for underage girls to do what they want but once an over the age guy doesnt like it and takes offense to it its a crime.

    The term jailbait is a like a orange safety cone. When you see it in the road you go around it to avoid any danger and get out of harms way.

    When we call an underage girl jailbait its basically saying move on theres nothing to see and only danger if you go forward instead of around.




    Oh one more thing.

    In my other reply I quoted OS statement entirely with the picture. Now Malkie edited that out and said I needed the users permission.

    But if I used the quote reply button it would basically be the same thing. I would be using the persons picture without their permission.

     
  25. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "whats wrong with Jailbait"

    I crack up every time I read the title of this thread.
     
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