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Discussion Where does Star Wars go as an IP from here?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Future Films - Spoilers Allowed' started by 2Cleva, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 5

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    Live action Star Wars films will obviously go on beyond the ST... be that a High Republic film etc. etc. I think the ST burnt some bridges, so I'm not sure how Lucasfilm will approach live action films set in a post ST era... and I imagine it will take some deliberation for them to work out whether they wan't to go there in the near future.
     
  2. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    I don’t think it’ll be that difficult to be honest. If they were to announce that Filoni was going to make a post-ST series about Rey, Finn and their Jedi Order, I think people would be pretty excited. Most importantly I think the general public would definitely watch it.
     
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  3. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 5

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    I think any 'Rey New Jedi Order' concept is, at this juncture, probably more appropriate for a TV series than a live action film. I doubt Boyega is going to come back to Star Wars any time soon.
     
  4. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    I mean he seemed keen if they were to treat his character with more respect.
     
  5. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 5

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    Well that's always possible... never say never I suppose... but my point was more around whether it's 'easier' to mine pre-ST era material... especially as it would avoid having to get Boyega and Isaac to reprise their roles, which whilst possible isn't probable in the near future (maybe 5-10 years?). A caveat to this (IMHO) is how big a character Grogu becomes... because I think he could (currently) help build interest in any film, be that pre or post ST, if he were thrown into the mix. It just becomes a question of whether it's a safer bet for Lucasfilm to use him in a post ST era story with Rey, or whether there's more mileage in a pre ST era story, where they can include Luke Skywalker etc. etc.
     
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  6. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    The only “source” would be the fact that Kenobi went through rewrites with the rumor being that it was to differentiate it more from The Mandalorian. Of course it made no mention of F&F forcing those changes so that’s hogwash in all likelihood.
     
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  7. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Not at all. This has nothing to do with ST hate or for/against KK. Its about the story.

    There is not a coherent Star Wars story told by LFL that wasn't tied to Filoni. On one hand is Mandalorian, Clone Wars, Rebels, Resistance (which fans didn't take to). The other is the ST, Solo and RO (which I liked but was a mess).

    But he story of Star Wars is the focus point for F&F. They have made that clear since working with Disney/LFL - far more than the lip service anyone else has given. They get how all the pieces matter and the impact of each story beat.

    F&F are going to tell the story they want to tell.

    I follow the evidence. A quote is pointless - we can find numerous of quotes from Iger, Kennedy, and JJ of them lying about the production of SW. In fact - only producers of Disney SW projects before F&F got involved I believe are openly honest was RJ and Ron Howard.

    The media reports of Obi-Wan having to be rewritten in light of The Mandalorian are one way to taking it. If A forces B to change then A is dominant - correct?

    F&F are going to tell a story. My money says the story they will tell will not fit with what the ST did.
     
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  8. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Except there’s absolutely no evidence that indicates that F&F forced the Kenobi rewrites. It’s far more likely that Kennedy or Chow or one of the other producers realized the similarities and ordered the rewrites themselves. You know someone who’s actually involved in the production. Of course the rumor that it was due to similarities between the plots could be inaccurate in the first place. Rewrites are completely standard in any production after all so it could be for any number of reasons.
     
  9. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    Right. And I for one am very, very glad that it's not set in Peter Jackson's Middle Earth.
     
  10. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, for once in his life it looks like 2Cleva is right. Speak of the devil, but Variety just published a piece on the internal tug-of-war over the series' direction. It comes just short of saying Bob Chapek is allowing Filoni and Favreau to override Kennedy on story points, but it does strongly suggest it, on top of outright stating Chapek does not trust Kennedy or "have as positive of a relationship with [her]" as Iger had.

    We all owe 2Cleva a huge apology. He called this one, what, over a year ago? Huge and frustrating blow for ST fans, though. I'm not happy about this on any level.

    VARIETY: The uncertain future of Star Wars - Execs and writers clash behind the scenes of the struggling film series
     
  11. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Personal attacks? Can't say joking around because I wasn't.

    Do I have the same liberty?

    I got banned for posting a Luke drinking milk gif.
     
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  12. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films Manager and Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    After you had continued posting off topic bashing, and generally trolling the thread in question despite having been warned multiple times.
    We also remember these things y'know.
     
  13. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I clicked on the link and got Rick Astley doing his moves.
     
  14. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 5

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    [face_rofl][face_laugh][face_rofl]
     
  15. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Gonna be very VERY curious what it looks like though aesthetically

    Even stuff like Shadow of Morder (And sequel Shadow of War) while not in the Peter Jackson universe do take HEAVILY from it in terms of its look

    Yes but that doesn't mean they won't be informed by the Sequel Trilogy. Even if its not a direct connection the Sequels and what happens in them IS ALREADY informing their story decision making even on simple small things.
     
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  16. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval TV Screaming Service / FFS! star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    This is the most reasonably thought out and useful post in this thread.
     
  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    C’mon man. Even you have to be self-deprecating enough to acknowledge the humor in Pym’s post - especially great as it successfully resuscitated the Rickroll more than a decade after its peak. That’s not easy to do. Salute the joke and move along!
     
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  18. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    So ya'll still in your feelings and it results in personal attacks? That's the green light because folks are bitter from 3 years ago that I too was pointing out how messed up the ST was?

    Because if I do it I get banned.



    I guess I need to sing the "Everything is Awesome" song some folks need around SW.
     
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  19. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films Manager and Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    EDIT: I see you changed that while I was responding.
     
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  20. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Yeah - my original posts - I was going to be as petty as you guys are but I'm too old to play those games.

    History keeps showing the ones who raised the flags keep proven to be correct.
     
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  21. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I pity the trolls and haters.
     
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  22. indydefense

    indydefense Jedi Knight star 3

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    Fortnite has turned the rickroll song into an emote:

     
  23. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    It was a joke. Literally one of the oldest jokes on the internet. You’re not the only one who has jokes at your expense posted. I still get August jokes thrown my way four years after I made an ass of myself (seriously get over it people it was FOUR YEARS AGO!!! :p)
     
  24. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can you put the same level of effort into making stuff up?

    Edit to be on topic I guess what I’m most excited about is to see the visual styles of all these shows have compared to the films and each other.

    I feel like Kenobi has an opportunity to have a unique feel or style over say Boba o Andor which I feel will be pretty analogous to Mando and R1.
     
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  25. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    Not quite. It will be four years ago this upcoming AUGUST.