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Discussion Where does Star Wars go as an IP from here?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Future Films - Spoilers Allowed' started by 2Cleva, Jan 6, 2020.

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  1. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    One thing that I believe Mandalorian Season 3 has determined: “pirates” and scum-and-villainy will not suffice to be the main antagonists of a future Skywalker-saga movie . . .
     
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  2. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Who ever said they would? The scum and villainy of the underworld has always served its purpose as world building elements of the Saga films not the main feature.
     
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  3. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Oh you know . . . people. They know who they are ;)
     
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  4. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  5. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    who?
     
  6. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    It would be untoward for me to say, but if you do your own research, then ye shall find them . . . :p
     
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  7. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    come on dude, it's not up to me to do your research
     
  8. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So basically what you’re saying is you’re trolling? Got it. If you have nothing of actual value to add to this conversation then I suggest you move on.
     
  9. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Well I believe my point stands: pirates just aren’t enough to be main antagonists. In terms of themes, they just don’t provide the drama, the cosmic battle between good and evil that we expect from the main line Star Wars. Now, if they were also Sith, a kinda fusion of dark Force villains and aliens/pirates, then maybe that could work.
     
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  10. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    nobody is suggesting that they are the main protagonists, not even the show is suggesting that they are the main protagonists
     
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  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    So, this season proved that by giving us the most cartoonish pirate villains yet? Like, there’s no possibility of creating genuinely menacing, professional criminal villains, because the Seaweed King isn’t that? I don’t get the logic.
     
  12. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Don’t get me wrong, I rather like Captain Seaweed. He’s pretty good for what he is, an amusing and impressive creature effect in the tradition of Jabba. I think LFL really put in their best effort with the pirates in Mando, and works well. But there are limits to the gravitas they can bring to the table, same with Jabba, Vos from Solo, etc. When you know the cosmic Forces at play in the overall story, they just seem to small, at least for the main saga stories imo.
     
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  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    For main saga, sure. But for shows and non-saga films, there are ways to make them much more threatening.
     
  14. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    I think space pirates etc. certainly *could* be enough to be the main antagonists. It's all down to how it's written and the tone set. The pirates in The Mandalorian were seemingly a bit more of a fun, throwback element rather than a serious foe. If the ST taught us anything, stormtroopers, imperials and red lightsabers don't automatically bring drama and peril if the writing is poor.
     
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  15. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I wish LFL would hire Ang Lee as a director. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is basically a SW film.
     
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  16. Sarge

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    Pirates can definitely work as major villains. Historically, we might not have had a US Navy if it hadn't been for the Barbary Corsairs. Barbary pirates - Wikipedia
     
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  17. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    I think an alliance of pirates could make for an interesting enemy post ST. As long as they are not a copy of the Nihil.
     
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  18. Darth_Bertie

    Darth_Bertie Force Ghost star 6

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    So, it seems the Mandoverse is heading to an end, with the focus now being placed in the first Jedi... and the new ones!
     
  19. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    At long last, after being relegated to having a relatively small role in the new content, Jedi will be the focus of this next period of storytelling.
     
  20. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's the best possible news if you ask me.
     
  21. Reepicheep775

    Reepicheep775 Jedi Master star 4

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    Conceptually, these three movies seem about the best choices they could have made for three separate films. Obviously, I'll reserve judgement until I actually see them, but based on premise alone, I'm cautiously optimistic.

    I've been saying for a while that the conflict between Thrawn and the characters in the "Mandoverse" needs to be on the big screen, so I'm glad it's actually happening. This really is a smart choice if they're trepidatious about new films because Mando already has a built in audience.

    Dawn of the Jedi also makes sense. If they're going pre-TPM, it's better to start at the very beginning and proceed chronologically. Then you can eventually hit on all the big events - the first Jedi, the first Sith, the Sith Wars, conflicts with the Mandalorians, Darth Bane etc. - in a logical way without confusing audiences too much. The title is also intriguing. I wonder how much this film will borrow from the original comic series. I recently read those for the first time, so this is good timing.

    And... the New Jedi Order. I've made no secret that I'm not a fan of the ST. I've made my peace with it as best I can, but it's still a corner of the timeline I have virtually no interest in. However, given that we have it and it isn't going away, moving on to the formation of the new Jedi is the best step they can take. Once again, the title intrigues me. Could this involve the Grysk or the Yuuzhan Vong?

    Also, I'm really glad these aren't random standalones. They are all integral to the overall Saga, which is what a Star Wars film should be imo.
     
  22. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    Just for clarity, I don’t think the titles have been announced. What we saw were ‘era’ banners, not the titles of the films, as far as I’m aware.
     
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  23. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, this is such a shift in storytelling focus it almost feels like a “phase 2” of Lucasfilm post-Disney sale.
     
  24. SomethinSomethinDarkSide

    SomethinSomethinDarkSide Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Lucasfilm is going after all sections of the fanbase with these movie announcements. Something for the Filoniverse fans, something for ST fans and something for people who have been begging for the Old Republic era-related material.
     
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  25. SomethinSomethinDarkSide

    SomethinSomethinDarkSide Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    DP.
     
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