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Who can joke, who can’t?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Diggy, Nov 21, 2018.

  1. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't know why people are getting on VLM's case for getting banned for responding to attacks that moderators refused to do anything about.

    That is something that I wouldn't get over, either.
     
  2. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    I don't think anybody has gotten on his case. The majority of us are on the same page here.
     
  3. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    @harpua - I expect we interpreted posts like this differently, then.
     
  4. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Either that, or I missed it.

    Anyway, my point is, dude is banned and we're pretty much all on the same page about it... so what are you trying to accomplish here?
     
  5. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Force Ghost star 6

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    If we were pretty much on the same page, this thread would not exist.
     
  6. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    I was definitely on the bad end of some of his mean comments, but I agree with @tom in a lot of ways. I don't really think Ender ever intended his comments to be taken seriously, and if he ever took it too far the community would often (although not always unfortunately) call him out on it. His comments would initially be frustrating if directed toward you, but if you brushed them off as a joke the sting really went out of them, and I found myself laughing at some of the comments.

    I actually found him a lot less mean spirited than a lot of other people in the JCC to be honest.
     
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  7. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Sure it would... @Diggy would have totally still started it. :p

    Anyway.. I'm done with pointless bickering. I'm glad something was finally done about the issue. Like i said, a small part of me will miss him, but I think the outcome was sufficient and appropriate.
     
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  8. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    I always thought Diggy was Ender's sidekick. He seems to have turned on him :p
     
  9. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Diggy is nobody's sidekick. :p
     
  10. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe this whole time Ender was really Diggy's sidekick?
     
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  11. Sith-I-5

    Sith-I-5 Force Ghost star 6

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    I read the last page, and encountered multiple posts seeming to lay into VadersLaMent for re-airing an earlier injustice.

    I decided to stand by him.
     
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  12. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Okay, great. Now what?
     
  13. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Force Ghost star 6

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    You are not allowed to offend anyone anymore. No more harpua ********* posts any longer. :p
     
  14. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Don't mini-mod me. :p

    Anyway... this is just dumb, and I'm finished with it. Like i said, I think this was a very long time coming and completely appropriate, so yay for this thread.
     
  15. Diggy

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  16. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    Same situation.

    I didn’t have a problem when Ender said it, and I don’t have a problem with what J-Rod said...but I don’t see why this shouldn’t be considered the same, with similar consequences.

    Maybe we should add “the only good X is a dead X” to the hate speech policy or list of banned words. It would clarify the deal. You say this, you get banned.
     
  17. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree. The problem that I saw with Ender's case was that there was a tacit acceptance of his behaviour until it was decided that it wasn't okay anymore and he wasn't given the opportunity to post under the new policy towards his behaviour. I don't think J-Rod should be permanently banned because of this, however if he isn't I think it might be reasonable to consider allowing Ender back.
     
  18. FatBurt

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    Warning sufficient in this case IMO for Rodderz. Totally tone deaf as usual but he doesn't (as far as I can tell) have the same level of going OTT that Ender did.

    I also don't think that Ender could come back in all honesty, I'd like him back as when he was "good Ender" he was very good, thoughtful and engaging but when he wasn't he was poisonous and I don't think the community would take him back now as we would be too wary of the poison returning. Which is a shame but totally understandable.
     
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  19. Dandelo

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    you didn't have a problem that someone wished death on someone else?
    some things are in poor taste whether it's a joke, disguised as a joke or just that persons plain opinion.
    And some opinions such as hateful ones are (rightfully) just not allowed here.
     
  20. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    No one wished death on anyone. I’m aware that people mistakenly think someone did.
     
  21. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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    When I read the title of this thread, I like to pretend it refers instead to who has the ability to be funny and who doesn't...and why.


    :p
     
  22. Jedi Knight Fett

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    Maybe I am wrong here since I often am, but context in the situation matters. I know people in real life who have said “only good commie is a dead commie” but it was an obvious joke. However it might be best to just have a blanket no no on those types of comments because most cases no matter the context would be bad. The only one that I don’t really see many people taking offense to is the communist one, but even to a communist, it could be offense. The only difference between saying let’s say “ the only good libertarian/Republic/democrat/Independent is a dead one” is the fact that more people are apart of those groups so even if it’s a joke I think it should be treated the same. It’s not that hard to come up with jokes that don’t involve saying something so “dangerous” (not saying in this case the user was actually threatening anyone) to that particular group.
     
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  23. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Please don't let Ender come back. He's toxic.
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

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    I’ll be honest he was most of the reason I never ventured far in the JCC and I can almost guarantee that I wasn’t the only one. but that’s as much as I’ll say about that.
     
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  25. PulsarSkate

    PulsarSkate Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wow I came into Comms to find out if I was allowed to be funny in this new age and it looks like...yes? As long as I'm not Ender. Thanks everyone!