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Who does the title Return of the Jedi refer to?

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  1. Sith_Of_One

    Sith_Of_One Jedi Youngling

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    Now knowing some of the back story of Anakin. Does the title refer to Luke who is making his first appearance now as a Jedi and the possible return of the Jedi Order. Or does it refer to Anakin returning from the Dark Side to once again become a Jedi. Cause you have to remember the original title of this film was Revenge of the Jedi. Personally, I think it was originally refering to Luke, but now with the origin of Anakin and Darth Vader nearly revealed, I think it's meaning has changed.

    Cause I think it can be looked at like this A New Hope is the new hope and possibility of redemption for Anakin by Luke.
    The Empire Strikes Back, was of course Vader striking back really at Luke more than at the Rebellion for the destruction of the Death Star and finally his ultimatum and revelation of the truth.

    So what do you guys think?
     
  2. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Like all the SW movies thus far, the title means more than one thing.

    It means Luke, the Jedi, returning to fight the Empire once more.
    It means Anakin, the long-lost Jedi, returning from the dark side.
    And it means the Jedi Order returning to the galaxy.



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  3. Master_Akwat_Kbrana

    Master_Akwat_Kbrana Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Like all the SW movies thus far, the title means more than one thing.

    I can certainly see that in 1, 4, and 6, but "Attack of the Clones" and "The Empire Strikes Back" both see fairly cut-and-dry to me...
     
  4. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    It means Luke becoming a Jedi. The first new Jedi in years. Thus, the return of the jedi.

     
  5. jabba_the_nut

    jabba_the_nut Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Luke claims to be a Jedi, Jabba laughs him off, Luke shows him up. Silencing a hardened skeptic showed that the Jedi have returned.
     
  6. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    multiple meanings for Attack of the Clones

    Meaning 1: Clones attack Separatists on Geonosis.
    Meaning 2: Clones attack Republic; simply by existing and being employed, the clones have attacked the Republic's peace.

    multiple meanings for The Empire Strikes Back

    Meaning 1: The Empire attacks Hoth, strikes back at the Republic.
    Meaning 2: Vader attacks Luke, Han, Leia etc. -- the personal battle.



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  7. 1701

    1701 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I always thought it meant the return of the Jedi order with the Luke finishing his training (and becoming a jedi) and facing his father.
     
  8. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I interpret it as the return of Anakin, personally. It would almost make more sense to have the movie be titled "The Rise of the First Real Jedi to Ever Do This Thing Properly," but I guess that was too long for the scrolly thing.
     
  9. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I think Dark Lady Mara is right.
     
  10. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    I think when all 6 movies of the saga are complete it MAY involve Anakin as well. But then again are ghost jedis still jedis? Is Qui-Gon still a jedi even though hes been dead for over 30 years. Anakin was a ghost at the end of ROTJ. Does ROTJ really mean Vader turning back into Anakin for the one minute or so before he dies? I truly believe when Lucas wrote the script of ROTJ, he was only thinking of Luke. But when the saga is complete in May 2005, we may be arguing over this point longer than: are the clonetroopers, stormtroopers.

     
  11. darkOmegazer0

    darkOmegazer0 Jedi Master star 4

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    Of course it means more than one thing, Luke, the Jedi Order, Anakin...
     
  12. Luke_SW

    Luke_SW Jedi Master star 2

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    it refers to Luke, that's why the original title was 'Revenge of the Jedi'
     
  13. Sith_Of_One

    Sith_Of_One Jedi Youngling

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    The original title referred to Luke, but now with the PT nearly finished and the character of Anakin flehed out more. I would have to believe that the title of this film refers more towards Anakin rather than Luke. And yes, the title can refer to Anakin's one minute of returning to the side of good before his death. Because it is this ultimate return to good that destroys the Emperor and his New Order.
     
  14. I_AM_A_CLONER

    I_AM_A_CLONER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    are you seriously asking this question?


    ...the cloner
     
  15. QuiGonHrafn

    QuiGonHrafn Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I agree. Originally I thought it meant Luke but now it is more Anakin or the Jedi in general. Of course it depends on the title of EIII. If it is called Fall of the Jedi - then it must be 99% certain that it means Anakin. But I think it means the return of the Jedi in general - but we will wait for the title of EIII. Then maybe we will get a clue.
     
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