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The Mandalorian Who forged the Beskar Spear?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by godisawesome , Jan 30, 2022.

  1. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    This technically shouldn’t be in the Mando gear/weapons thread, or at least it seems it shouldn’t be, since the Armorer claims Mandos don’t make Beskar weapons since they can compromise Beskar armor.

    So, who do you think had it made?

    Morgan Elsbeth, as a personal weapon herself?

    Some ancient Sith or Jedi fighting the Mandalorians?

    Thrawn, trying to abuse Mandalorian cultural mores?

    Someone else?
     
  2. VexedAtVohai

    VexedAtVohai Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There are also Beskar vibro-axes, one of which was used by Ap'lek, a Knight of Ren.
     
  3. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    A rogue Mando?
     
  4. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    I bet it was Albert, those German rocket scientists could do anything.
     
  5. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I hadn't actually thought of this. I think that either it's a new weapon, made by Elsbeth or someone in Thrawn's employ, or it's an old Mandalorian weapon. After all, there are many different factions of Mandalorians, so some of them might not take issue with beskar weapons.
    Maybe it was used during the Mandalorian Civil War?
     
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  6. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    maybe the Armorer knows who made it and that’s part of the reason she wanted to melt it down?
     
  7. Lord-Skywalker

    Lord-Skywalker Hangman Host/18X Wacky Wed Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner VIP - Game Host

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    Thrawn has a hobby of collecting/stealing artifacts. Hera’s family heirloom comes to mind. My guess he came across the spear somehow and gave it Morgan.
     
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  8. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I bet it was a weapon commissioned by some Imperial bigwigs. Forged from the armor of massacred noble Mandos.
     
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  9. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Are "whistling birds" made out of beskar?

    Still, they might not be a weapon that penetrates beskar armour.
     
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  10. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Thrawn having it built/finding it as a weapon specifically capable of throwing off a Mando would be the most intriguing version for me.
    The Armorer's dialogue at the time heavily implied they were Beskar... and we saw them fail to penetrate even the not-Beskar of the Darktroopers' armor, so that technicality could be correct.

    It could also be a housing thing - that the bird darts can only be safely fired from a beskar casing.
     
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  11. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Could be the ones the Armorer made out of Beskar were limited as SHE said in the dialogue and Din used them up long before he took on the Darktroopers. "Beskar not used as a weapon" has opened a whole can of worms unless it's meant that whistling birds is meant solely for defence and she doesn't count that.
     
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  12. Fin McCool

    Fin McCool Jedi Master star 4

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    You might be on to something. "Its mere existence puts Mandalorians at risk." Subjective interpretation and all, but to me, she seems to utter that line with particularity. Granted, that doesn't dispel the problem with the whistling birds.
     
  13. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    Bold Prediction! It was Fennec Shand who forged the Beskar spear!
     
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  14. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I think it was simply the vambrace housing the whistling birds that’s made of beskar.
     
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  15. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Considering how valuable beskar seems to be, it would be wasteful (not to mention expensive) to make ammo out of it.
     
  16. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    This too.
     
  17. Fin McCool

    Fin McCool Jedi Master star 4

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    That's where you invest in a BADA55 Autopsy Droid to extract each whistling bird from each recipient, thereby preserving your valuable beskar.
     
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  18. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    You know, I hadn't really thought about it, but that is a good question.

    The Empire are just about the only non-Mandalorians we know of who can smelt beskar (given how tough it is, it must be a difficult process, and I can see the Mandos trying to keep it secret) but a spear doesn't seem like a very Empire weapon - at least, if they made a spear, I imagine it would look more like a royal guard force pike.

    So, until there is any solid evidence, I am going to guess it was Morgan Elspeth herself. She was apparently involved in the strip mining of worlds to build an imperial war machine, so she could have been in charge of picking Mandalore's bones, and at the same time she has a strong connection to her own destroyed people - it is possible a spear is a traditional weapon of her ancestors, whoever they were, and so she had her share of the beskar made into a shape that meant something to her.
     
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  19. Shaak Ti

    Shaak Ti Jedi Master star 3

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    I am thinking it goes back to the Mandolorian Civil War. Maybe created for fights with Jedi?
     
  20. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Actually, speaking of the civil war and thinking again...

    Just because the Children of the Watch have a rule against beskar weapons doesn't mean that other groups of Mandalorians did. If anything, the civil war - and the general history of Mandalorian clan violence - would make a weapon that could reliably kill rival mandalorians would probably be highly valued, particularly by the less honorable and more ambitious types.
     
  21. clone commander bossk

    clone commander bossk Ostrich Velocity Expert star 5

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    Sounds like clan Saxon to me.
     
  22. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Come to think of it, could the fact that we don’t see any of the Children of the Watch using and integral blades in their gauntlets maybe give some things away? Din *and* Paz both carry their non-Beskar vibroblades separate from their gauntlet weaponry, while Bo and Jango both have integral blades on their gauntlets - with Jango’s apparently capable of digging into Kamino’s metal with little issue.
     
  23. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    A strong possibility.

    An excellent observation. I never noticed that, but it makes a lot of sense.
     
  24. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Well, he’s God. And he’s awesome.
     
  25. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Mandalorians make their armor and weapons out've beskar, including the darksaber's hilt. I don't know what the Armorer was talking about on the show for her to make sense - but I suppose she was trying to say it was made by a non-Mandalorian to kill Mandalorians.
     
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