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Discussion Who Should Direct the Next/Future Star Wars Film(s)?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Future Films - Spoilers Allowed' started by Darth Chiznuk , May 14, 2019.

  1. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm just the opposite- I think the episode with Ahsoka was the best (written and directed by Filoni) and the Boba episode is the second best.
     
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  2. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    I also loved Filoni's Ahsoka episode. In my top 5. I just don't like Rodriguez's style. Even though the episode was fun as heck.

    But Famuyiwa is on another level, IMO. Episode 2 last season still being the reigning champion episode for me.

    ETA: You'll want to spoiler tag your post, @Lee_
     
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  3. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    This actually doesn't make sense, realistically speaking. Johnson has said that he's not interested in writing stories that factor in canon or worldbuilding, so even if you paired him with Filoni, they wouldn't work together well.

    Filoni proved with "The Jedi" that he could handle making a movie. If he pulled that off, they should consider letting him do the next trilogy.
     
  4. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    Did RJ really say that?
     
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  5. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    Of course he didn’t.
     
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  6. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    He's said that about worldbuilding, and that's easy to see in the kinds of movies he makes. Worldbuilding should be understood as traditional storytelling. Johnson is more interested in formal innovation and his characters serve more as structures to convey his voice, as opposed to allowing characters to operate organically based on a functioning psychology.

    We can infer from this that canon would matter little to him, as it depends on worldbuilding and respecting traditional storytelling conventions like character. He's the kind of filmmaker who views an existing world as a potential limit to his creative process, and this is why he must change them to fit his style and vision.

    We can also see how he thinks about canon from TLJ, where he ignores aspects that JJ set up (canon) and how he chose such a subversive take on Luke.
     
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  7. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    So he didn’t say it, it is just your opinion on his filmmaking process.
     
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  8. Darth Buzz

    Darth Buzz Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes
     
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  9. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 6

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    Great points. My main issue with TLJ was, indeed, the fact that the "seams" of his "structures to convey his voice" were so obvious and unsubtle, that my suspension of disbelief collapsed. His approach is what Tolkien called the "tyranny of the author." I prefer a much more observational and natural approach, ala Villeneuve, Malick, or even Edwards and Famuyiwa.
     
  10. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    More like you took his words and once again twisted them into sonmething else entirely that would fit your narrative.
    You can try to "infer" anything you want, doesn't mean that it is somehow remotely close to being true. Right now, all you are doing is projecting an opinion onto him, instead of taking his actual words and opinions into account. It's just attacks for the attack's sake. Regardless of what he is saying or doing, the very same people will instantly swarm out and twist everything into something else entirely. Like a famous football coach once said: "If I would walk on water they would say 'look at him, he can't even swim!'".

    Apart from that, he didn't ignore canon in regards to what JJ Abrams set up, nor was his take on Luke contradicting anything, as nothing he did with Luke was in any way, shape or form going against canon or Luke's story. In fact, it followed the setup by TFA to the letter. You not liking the story doesn't somehow change the fact that it explicitly followed what TFA said about the character.

    Then again, all of that has very little to do with this topic.

    I don't think pairing Johnson and Filoni would do all that much. Unless one is merely around to offer a bit of advice now and then (which already happened to some extend in the past). Both seem way too involved in the whole process of developing a movie / episode / story to let someone else be in control of an entire part of that. They all tend to write and direct their own stuff. Filoni did write and direct his last two episode, just like Rick Famuyiwa did. Others tend to be involved in the process as well, but there is never a clear split between writer and director when it comes to these people.
     
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  11. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A negative and unpleasant debate about Rian and TLJ among SW fans?

    Wow, what a novelty!
     
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  12. Jimbing

    Jimbing Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Quentin Tarantino of course! I'd love to see his version of the Dark Side! Yessir.
     
  13. SmokeMonster4815162342

    SmokeMonster4815162342 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Damien Chazelle
    An expert storyteller, specifically about people with an obsession. Seems perfect for a story about a Jedi falling to the dark side.

    Christopher Nolan
    Though the movie will probably be exhausting and too plot-heavy, you just know he'd blow our minds by delivering an experience we've never had before with Star Wars.

    George Miller
    The dude would have a field day with the costuming alone.
     
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  14. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Socially And Emotionally Distant Mod Of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    @The Chalk Jedi , @Bor Mullet , @Darth Buzz , @AndrewPascoe , @Oissan

    Here is what was said:

    Interviewer:

    “Whenever you are writing, let’s say you are creating your own universe, you said you don’t think about actors, you are starting something from scratch, how is that approach versus something where you have a pre-existing universe? If you are writing characters for Star Wars, you have this universe, you have characters that everybody knows, and then now you are doing something from scratch. Do you find your approach is different for that?”

    Rian Johnson:

    "No, not at all. Because I don’t really think in terms of universes or in terms of creating worlds or whatever. That’s not that interesting to me. The only thing that is interesting to me is story. And the story specific to, like whether you are writing a Star Wars film that’s part of a three movie trilogy or a quote unquote original thing like Knives Out, you are still telling a story that is new to the thing that you are doing that it has to work within the context of that movie. So, to me the notion of what’s the entire galaxy or world that you are creating or something, I can’t imagine getting excited about creating that. To me what I’m excited about is creating a two hour long experience for an audience to have in the theater. And that means how they engage moment to moment with the story and the characters that are on the screen. And that doesn’t change in either one of those."

    Here's the interview: Quote is from about 10:25


    And I would recommend taking it to the Rian thread if you wish to respond further.
     
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  15. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    Ha you got me. I still think TLJ had plenty of world building but moving on.
     
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  16. ladygrey45

    ladygrey45 Jedi Master star 4

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    Wasn’t a huge fan of his either loved loved the finale though felt like Star Wars
     
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  17. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 7

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    What is Uwe Boll up to these days?
     
  18. ScreamingWoman2019

    ScreamingWoman2019 Jedi Knight star 4

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