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Who thinks ROTS will become the highest grossing film ever?

Discussion in 'London UK' started by TheDarthVader, May 22, 2005.

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  1. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    From May 19 to May 22, ROTS has made $158.5 million in the US domestic box office alone. Who thinks it will knock that damn heap of scrap metal, Titanic, off the US domestic top spot with $600.8 million.

    Well, I sure do.

     
  2. ChrisLyne

    ChrisLyne Force Ghost star 4

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    I really hope it breaks all records!!

    I think Titanic is sunk :D
     
  3. Raj_Vader

    Raj_Vader Jedi Master star 4

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    hear hear!
     
  4. Happy Ninja

    Happy Ninja Jedi Knight star 6

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    I want to say, hell yes, but if I'm totally honest, I'd say no. I don't think it will do it. Sure, the fans are rallying around the film at the moment, but it's hard to fight against the force that is otherwise known as "bored-housewife-syndrome"...The reason why Titanic did so well.

    I'm going to say it's going to do somewhere around $400 million. At the moment, it is ranked #111 and (#136 worldwide).
     
  5. Parm

    Parm Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It certainly could be.

    However, it should be pointed out that these highest grossing films nowadays are pure propoganda. They don't take into account the rate of inflation.
    Whereas many years ago there were fewer cinemas, and the seats went as little as 50 pence each, now you have huge multiplexes at every corner with some gold class seats at £10 or more!

    I was reading a book once which showed two lists, the highest grossing films of all time, and then a second list, the highest grossing films of all time taking into account inflation.

    The normal list was just full of new films, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Spiderman...


    *edit*
    I found the lists....


    Top 25 highest-grossing films not adjusted for inflation (US sales)

    1. Titanic (1997)
    2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
    3. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone (2001)
    4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
    5. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
    6. Jurassic Park (1993)
    7. Shrek 2 (2004)
    8. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
    9. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
    10. Finding Nemo (2003)
    11. Spider-Man (2002)
    12. Independence Day (1996)
    13. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
    14. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
    15. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
    16. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
    17. The Lion King (1994)
    18. The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
    19. Forrest Gump (1994)
    20. The Sixth Sense (1999)
    21. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
    22. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002)
    23. The Incredibles (2004)
    24. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)
    25. The Passion of the Christ (2004)


    Top 25 highest-grossing films adjusted for inflation (Worldwide Sales)

    1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
    2. Star Wars (1977)
    3. The Sound of Music (1965)
    4. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
    5. The Ten Commandments (1956)
    6. Titanic (1997)
    7. Jaws (1975)
    8. Doctor Zhivago (1965)
    9. The Exorcist (1973)
    10. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
    11. One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961)
    12. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
    13. Ben-Hur (1959)
    14. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983)
    15. The Sting (1973)
    16. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
    17. Jurassic Park (1993)
    18. The Graduate (1967)
    19. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
    20. Fantasia (1941)
    21. The Godfather (1972)
    22. Forrest Gump (1994)
    23. Mary Poppins (1964)
    24. The Lion King (1994)
    25. Grease (1978)


    Gives such a better perspective when you look at it adjusted for inflation. The box office records are broken every other month nowadays, but clearly not because of how good the movies are. Moreso, how much the tickets to see it cost.
     
  6. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    For a true analysis, we should take factors like inflation into account. I think it would be better to keep it simple though.

    $158.5 million in 3 days, that is amazing.

    As for $400 million + it took Shrek 2, 43 days to do this, and Spider-Man, 66 days. If ROTS has made $158.5 Million already, I am sure, if not confident, it will make $400 + million quicker than these films.

    It has just been made official ROTS has smashed,
    1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th day records.
     
  7. big-darth-vader

    big-darth-vader Jedi Youngling

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    no way the film is good but not that good to breaks the highest ever making money film
     
  8. ask-the-younglings

    ask-the-younglings Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Dunno. I never go to the cinema, but I've seen RotS a few times now, and have plans to see it 4 times more in the next 2 weeks. It's such a dense film, it demands several viewings - when the showing finished tonight, I wanted to just sit there and see it again - then watch ANH as a come-down. It deserves success - lots of it.
     
  9. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    It started off well, but its slipping a bit, it failed to break Spiderman's opening weekend record.
     
  10. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It has broken the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th day records though.

    Some reports claim it has broken the Spider-Man record. Even if it has not that is not a big worry, it still took more in its first 4 days than Spider-Man.
     
  11. Happy Ninja

    Happy Ninja Jedi Knight star 6

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    It might do well on June 19th...the one month anniversary, but I'd say after next week, on average, it might do around $4 million per day.
     
  12. wattsy

    wattsy Jedi Youngling

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    Well it made 50 million on the opening night in england so it could happen
     
  13. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    all the above stat are US domestic, I just found out that its worldwide gross so fa is, $303 million.
     
  14. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Thats impressive, a lot of films would make that in their whole run, this did it in 4 days :cool:
     
  15. Ellbobin

    Ellbobin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, the amount of times I plan seeing it, it sure could ;)
     
  16. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Anyone know how much it has taken in the UK so far?
     
  17. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I do not know the UK stat only US and International, UK stats tend to be a bit slow, give it a day or so.
     
  18. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The reason it didn't beat Spider-Man's opening weekend is that it opened on a Thursday instead of a Friday, so less hardcore fans saw it at the weekend. But it still had an amazing opening. I don't think it has a chance of beating Titanic, but it has a good chance of getting in the top 5 films of all time. If it beats TPM and ET I'll be happy :)
     
  19. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    In the domestic US box-office, ROTS has the best 4 day opening run of all time.

    1st ROTS $158.5 million
    2nd SM $130.5 million

    Quite a beating


    And the Top 3 day

    1st ROTS $124 million
    2nd SM $114 million
     
  20. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    I tought ROTS only did $108 million in the US for the 3 day weekend?

    Though I also heard that it was a tempory figure and could change, but its quite a jump if it did.
     
  21. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    For the weekend it only did $108 million, but it made $50 million on the first day (thursady). As a result of the first day, it was given the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th day records.
     
  22. Jairen

    Jairen Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Welshguy, you are right, it only did $108 million for the 3-day weekend

    The problem with all the figures in comparison to Spider-man is that SM was released on the classic Friday, and as such the 3-day weekend was also it's opening 3-days.

    However, ROTS was released on the Thursday, and as such, it's first 3-days did not equate to the 3-day weekend

    As such, a direct comparison, Thurs/Fri/Sat for ROTS, to Fri/Sat/Sun for SM would indicate that ROTS did significantly better, however a comparison of Fri/Sat/Sun for ROTS and Fri/Sat/Sun for SM has Spider-man in the better position.

    I would say that it should look purely at the opening 3 days, regardless of what days they were. In that respect, ROTS is $10 million up on Spider-Man.
     
  23. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Ahhh! Sorry, I get you now, I had the 3 days the wrong way round 8-}

    I think ROTS will have a very strong second week in the US and will get a lot more repeat business compaired to the other 2 prequals given its complex plot and stunning visuals.

    I think it could make $400 million US domestic easily.

    Though I have been known to be wrong about this type of thing... From time to time.
     
  24. TheDarthVader

    TheDarthVader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Update:

    UK stat for first 4 days $27.5 million
     
  25. Welshguy

    Welshguy Jedi Master star 4

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    Just posted: United Kingdom ROTS box-office - $27.5m (first 4 days).

    That works out to just over £15m.

    Not bad for 4 days, not sure how that stacks up against the record in the UK, but it certainly sounds impressive.


    Edit: Done a bit of digging and Harry Potter 3 at £18.5m (including previews) is the highest opening weekend (although, didn't this open on a bank holiday Monday?).

    Without previews (regular 3 day weekend), the total was just over £9.6m.

    I'm sure that if ROTS opened on a bank holiday Monday, it would have shattered that record.
     
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