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Discussion Who's the Baddie?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Future Films - Spoilers Allowed' started by Darth Chiznuk , Feb 21, 2018.

  1. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Was Exogol destroyed? If not, seems like plenty of Sith cultists to keep villany alive in the future. Surely they weren't all there at Palpatine's coliseum?

    Other villains: ancient darkside beings, similar to Tor Vallom, who looked fantastic.

    The old Legends Sith aliens are also a great design. Others above mentioned the Rakata.

    But overall my view is that enemies in SW are a vast array of anti-democratic forms and systems. Any totalitarian, pacifist, fascist, anarchic, monarchical, or slave system help the writers explore the upsides or downsides to democracy. This is why I thought The Clone Wars had really started to find the SW sweet spot with its weekly exploration of such themes.
     
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  2. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Or better yet, Phanius, ancestor of Sly Moore.

    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Ruin
     
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  3. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A resurrected Darth Ruin would be neat, but I'm done with Sith for now.
     
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  4. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Bored of the Sith.
     
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  5. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    I can understand being bored of the Rule of Two Sith, but I'd love to see what they were like before that.
     
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  6. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thank God, sometimes I feel like the only one that's bored of them.

    We've had Sith since 1999. We've had them in the PT, almost all of Legends books and comics, KOTOR and TOR, the new EU, and now the ST. Enough with those nihilistic pseudo-Darwinist freaks. They aren't even all that interesting.
     
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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    No, I'm just bored of evil snarling sorcerers in black outfits with red lightsabers that are incessantly making terribly unconvincing arguments about why good people should become totally evil.
     
  8. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Don't forget their fanbase.

    "Blowing up Alderaan was totally just a point of view, bruh!"
     
  9. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Are you talking about the President?

    Seriously, what villains would you rather have? I love snarling sorcerers. They seem very real to life.
     
  10. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I thought @jedijax was talking about an Old Republic era movie. I definitely don’t think the Sith should appear in an era or story that it wouldn’t make sense for them to appear in.
     
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  11. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You never know when people will go against what they say in public, but according to RJ, there will not be this kind of connection to characters from the saga (with the Kylo followers bit). I think we will have all new baddies that we have never heard of, which is what they really need to do. Get away from the angry SW fan that tends to feel betrayed in anything new they do with old characters.

    Anyway, who cares about SW movies anymore? :p After the Mandalorian, Disney has proven they do better with SW TV shows. =D=
     
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  12. The Chalk Jedi

    The Chalk Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Part of the problem is poor writing. Evil can be very interesting when done well. Look at Lucifier in Paradise Lost.
     
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  13. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's just one thing I have to say to the Yuuzhan Vong being main villains in Star Wars...

     
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  14. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 5

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    They should bring Palpatine back!
     
  15. Rogue Knight

    Rogue Knight Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I agree. This is why I think we need an Old Republic trilogy that explores the old Jedi and Sith wars and maybe culminates with the origin of the Rule of Two.
     
  16. Darth_Diealot

    Darth_Diealot Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Well, then someone like Darth Talon could come into play. A character like her (it doesnt have to be her) should be quite succesful in convinving some young Jedi of the Dark Side.
     
  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Feige's #1 Fan and Ryan Church Aficionado star 6

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    Sometimes, bad ideas are better left unimplemented. I put Darth Talon in that category.
     
  18. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If Star Wars continues with T.V that's gonna help give us maybe some interesting bad guys moving forward.

    Not saying movies can't give us great baddies but the week to week episodic format can give Star Wars some really unique villains moving forward.
     
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  19. Lord Exor

    Lord Exor Jedi Knight star 3

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    Just resurrect Palpatine again.
     
  20. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 3

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    Well, I agree that dark siders should be kept as something rare and special, but also it must be said there is no need for every dark sider to be a Sith, and for every Sith to think and act exactly the same. There is a lot of room for variety.

    That being said, if an alternate road from the Dark Side is needed, this should be the moment for a genetic terrorist, Ruler of the Dark Worlds, true architect of the Clone Wars, to finally emerge!!
     
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  21. Darth_Diealot

    Darth_Diealot Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I'm curious. Why ist it a bad idea for you? I would not create a Talon (or other baddie) like the Talon in the comics. My baddie would be more intriguing, not just a weapon carrying out his/her masters orders, but with with own ambitions. The way Ben was corrupted never convinced me; to me it would be more convincing if the corruption was done by seduction. Would I fall for Snoke? Hard to say. But as a naive youngling to an atttractive person who shows passion for me? Hell yea!:)
     
  22. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Poor Palpatine. Waking up in the Clone Vat again.
    sighs. "Okay. Let's try this one more time."
     
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  23. Troy_Viszla

    Troy_Viszla Jedi Knight star 2

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    If there are Movies in the High Republic era I like to see Villains in the vain of Tor Vallum, or what ever his name is.
    Beings created by the Dark side itself.
     
  24. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    I want to see demons from another dimension.
     
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  25. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Let's have some eldritch abominations from a universe corrupted by the dark side enter the GFFA and you're set.
     
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