PT Why did the Jedi just accept the clone army?

So a clone army, created by Dooku the guy leading the separatist and part of Sith (your mortal enemy) and know one thought to investigate or do thorough test on these clones or why your enemy would give you free soldiers?

 

Because that's the way George wanted to tell his story.

Regardless of any reasonable suspicions that the Jedi, of all people, should have had and investigated (and not in a spin off).

 

Because the Seperatists were about to attack, so unless the Jedi had another bright idea, they kind of had no options.

 

Not to mention, Saddam Hussein defied the Republic Resolutions. They had already invaded another "nation" a decade earlier, put out a failed assassination hit on Padme H.W. Bush and now were building droids of mass destruction. Jar W. Bush asked the Senate for Emergency Powers. Time for some pre-emptive shock and awe. How could the coalition have known that the drones would be used against them?

 

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It's not like Coruscant is immediately threatened or anything. The Jedi seem to be having a rather leisurely confab about the turn of events. Their only expressed opinion about the clones is "Lucky we had those clones that we didn't ask for like the Kaminoans said."

How long would it take to analyse one of those clone and find something that they can't explain to at least make them at least super vigilant about handling them? Or to have at least tried and been thwarted.

I guess this kind of negligence it's consistent with the Jedi coming across a weapon like the "Sith destroyer" chosen one, Anakin, and not handling it diligently enough until it goes off in their faces.


Even politicians in committee hearings about defective equipment being given to soldiers don't have the gall to excuse themselves by saying

- "There was a war on. We didn't have time for the necessary checks and balances on illegitimately acquired material, like you would expect. We just had to trust that the stuff we found lying around must be fine until they failed catastrophically in combat."

- "Oh yes. I forgot there was a war breaking out and equipment of whatever quality and condition we could get our hands on was all we were after. You're quite right. There was no reason to expect you to do your job, minister. "

 

In times of war only 1 thing matters: survival. Britain similarly spent every last bit of their gold reserve in WW2 because if they took their time to think it out and do a few studies investigating the impact, they would be speaking German.

At this point the Jedi knew 3 things:

A. The CIS had an army large enough to successfully invade the Republic;

B. they were led by a man who was at best a fallen Jedi and at worst a Sith Lord, and;

C. the only thing standing between them and death/submission to the CIS was the clone army.

 

The Chancellor authorized the Clonetroopers deployment, based on intel from Obi-wan that the Separatists were creating a large Droid Army with the intention of attacking the Republic. After that attack has been routed at Geonosis, there was time for Mace and Yoda to talk with Obi-wan. The rest of the Council was absent, suggesting they were deploying Jedi.

Why would they analyze the Clonetroopers? Why would they think that they would betray them? There's no proof that Sifo-Dyas didn't operate on his own to create the Clone Army. Jango can work for two different employers, a decade apart. Tyranus could be anywhere and anyone. Finding him is like finding a needle in a hay stack.

 

I don't know. Why would you inspect a weapon you found lying around that you now expect to protect you? Why wouldn't you assume it's fine until it kills you?

 

True - but Jango isn't last seen on Kamino a decade before being seen working for Dooku - he's last seen on Kamino a couple of days before being seen working for Dooku.

Indeed, from Obi-Wan's testimony ("I'm not signing that treaty until I have her head on my desk")- there's reason to believe he was part of the assassination team sent to kill Padme by Dooku (he assassinated the assassin, to protect the secret) - and then went to Kamino afterwards. So he was on Kamino, at the same time as he was in Dooku's service.

 

Well, to use a parallel from Earth history, the U.S. command structure didn't care about any possible aftereffects of using the A-Bomb. They just wanted it to work, and they needed it ASAP.

 

They had no defense against the droids when the GEONOSIS attack occurred, and after they won there -- they realized how much trouble they were in. Why not use a clone army in a time of war ? Everything was prepared and I assume everyone believed SyfoDias made the order

 

Why would you assume that the army will kill you? Why would you assume that one of your own will betray you? Not to mention that even if they did a bio scan, they wouldn't find the bio chips. And even if you don't want to accept TCW, there's still nothing that would indicate that they'd betray the Jedi even through bio scanning.

Which is still nothing. It just means that he accepted another job while on the first job. Just like he would have accepted any job for the Hutts, or a Republic senator who was corrupt, or for Hondo, or any number of people, while still donating his DNA for fresh batches of clones. That doesn't mean that Dooku was involved in the creation of the Clone Army and thus the Jedi should be suspicious of that.

 

If your army fails, you're dead. It doesn't need to literally, directly kill you.

Easy money.

 

They accepted it because Palpy has +100 persuasion.

 

Is that in the movie?

 

You do know that Yoda went to Geonosis and inspected the Clone Army, before departing for Geonosis?

 

The Jedi didn't saw Attack of the Clones. You're basically questioning why they don't know what you know.

And the army is of the Republic. It's the Republic that allowed its use. As far as they know, Sifo-Dyas ordered it. And they were investigating the creation of the army until war broke. As revealed in TCW, only near the end of the war do they discover that the Sith were behind it. And their reasoning to continue to fight alongside the clones is explained in the very same episode.

 

That does not address the point you quoted.

 

Yoda inspected nothing in the time it took to collect and mobilise that army to Geonosis. You're living in your own fantasy if you are trying to play that card at this late stage.

 

I imagine it as Yoda talking to the Kaminoans, and them showing a holo-recording of Sifo-Dyas's first contact with them, and thus Yoda's suspicions being temporarily allayed.

 

I can imagine quite a bit.

I didn't pay good money to imagine that the mystery that took half a movie to set up was solved within seconds offscreen and to Yoda's satisfaction without any further reference to if and how he carried out due diligence.

 

"Who is Tyranus" is still a mystery though (solved in TCW Season 6).

 

Maybe the Kaminoans gave Yoda the old secret Jedi handshake and password.