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Saga Yoda was wrong about a lot of things...

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Darthvader1975, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. AEHoward33

    AEHoward33 Jedi Master star 4

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    This only makes me suspect that both Obi-Wan and Yoda had a very rigid way of thinking. I really don't see how a person's change in moral compass made him or her a different person or identity altogether. For me, Anakin was Anakin - whether he was a nine year-old slave boy on Tatooine, a Jedi padawan, a Jedi knight married to a senator or a ruthless Sith Lord and apprentice to his Sith master. He was always one and the same.

    Yet, he had spent a good number of years after the Republic's fall, learning more about the Force from Qui-Gon Jinn's Force ghost.
     
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  2. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    As we don't know Revan's story, he could have been a Sith, and died a Sith. We don't know, but you don't get to speculate his story just to improve a point. We cannot consider him in either fashion.
    There is a difference between believing something to be true and being wrong. If we look at it from our out of universe hindsight view, it's easy to nitpick and be critical of decisions characters made. Yoda believed redemption from the dark side to not be possible, and as it cost Vader his life, to a degree Yoda was correct. One thing being lost in this, even if Yoda was wrong, this was a good thing to be wrong about, and really nothing to be criticized over.

    The greats never stop learning. They feel they can always do and be better.
     
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  3. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Yoda being wrong about things and having doubt makes him a better character. No one is above being humbled. We all must learn and grow.
     
  4. AEHoward33

    AEHoward33 Jedi Master star 4

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    I disagree with this assessment. Redemption from evil was possible. And Anakin proved it . . . regardless of whether he had died or would have survived. One doesn't have to be alive at the end in order to gain redemption.
     
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  5. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    No one but Luke believed it which was the point. For all the things Luke got wrong and didn't know he has to get something because it shows the character can see something no one else could not Yoda, Obi-Wan, Sidious or Vader himself.

    Even then Luke thought his father was dead and gone but he never gave up hope in his heart just like Padme didn't. Then at the midnight hour Anakin did come back, the Jedi returned or to be more precise he finally for the first time truly became a Jedi by being totally selfless and gave up all he was to save another.

    Not from Lucas so completely irrelevant to his story.

    Which Lucas played out in his TCW arc being taught by Qui-Gon.
     
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  6. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Quinlan Vos's fall (and redemption) is from TCW though, which Lucas was heavily involved in right before his sale to Disney. It was an arc that would have been done as episodes, but after the cancellation of TCW and the sale, was done as a novel instead.
     
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