Amph "You think you're the only superhero in the world?" - The Marvel Cinematic Universe

About the importance of What If?

 

The Blade movie finds its director!

 

Well there’s going to be a second Mandarin.

 

You’re right, but I remember after the film was released Marvel really pushed hard on Killian being the real Mandarin (ugh).

 

such a different character in the comics i don't know why they didn't just change the name.

about to go post that somewhere else for the new "Snake Eyes" movie

 

Becouse they kept the look and the powers.

I'm actually surprised about how many that seems surprised that they only focused on Taskmaster's combat ability. It’s not like they have completely recreated the secret identity, backstory and/or motivation for most villain before. And the comics do seems to mostly use him as a physical threat now a-days also.

 

One thing i fear with this multiverse stuff is that Marvel starting "fixing" things like this with "variants" from other timeline/dimension/alternate reality

 

I'd be totally okay if they somehow stated that Ed Norton's Bruce Banner was a variant. The events of Incredible Hulk still can happen exactly in the MCU (Which they did, "I kind of ... broke Harlem" and Thunderbolt Ross) but the TIH movie just happened to be an alt reality with Ed Norton-looking variant.

 

Meanwhile Loki's finale audience is a best yet for a MCU TV show:

 

i want to come up with a crack about i hope there's a scene of the actual Mandarin torturing the fake, but ...ugh nothing will fix that. That movie would have been so much better without swerving the fans.

 

actually if Trevor doesn't show up in Shang-Chi I'll be kinda ticked. I get a kick outta him.

 

That exactly. Because they wanted to conceal the whole twist, Killian takes a backseat in characterization and comes off as a poor man's Obidiah Stane. And Stane only worked because he was played by Jeff freaking Bridges. The character himself was pretty terrible. Justin Hammer at least was never killed and what he lacked in brains, he made up for in his stupidity and ego. By being duped into handing his systems over to Vanko, he unwittingly gets pulled into this life or death situation. And he survives to tell the tale and perhaps one day escape and make more problems for someone else (Armor Wars! Armor Wars!) Killian though had even less appeal than Stane and less charisma than Hammer and his fight at the end with Tony was mostly boring because we'd already seen it with his lackeys and Tony for the first hour and a half. So the idea that this idiot was going to beat Tony was never believable and that's why he never posed any valid threat. Not only that, but he didn't even feel like a threat to Rhodes, Pepper or the President.

I remember when I first watched Begins and was super bummed that they had killed Ra's in the first fifteen minutes. Then of course, they give us the brilliant reveal of Ducard and it all works better. Even though Ducard doesn't survive, the fact that he still haunts bruce decades later really sells the impact he had.

Trevor made no lasting impact. And Killian even less so. He was basically mopped up by Tony's squad so quick that he blew the suits a few minutes later. He was never a true threat to Tony. Tony's PTSD was the only real threat.

 

Originally Maya Hanson - not Killian - would have been the big bad in Iron Man 3.

That would create a double fake out. Not only is the Mandarin a total fraud, Killian would be revealed as a henchmen deferring to Maya’s master mind.

Beyond the not great ‘twist’ of a woman villain - Maya would have provided an interesting villain who is part Tony Stark and part Pepper Potts. I think that would have worked better. It would also makes Killian’s bland villain work better as a fake out.

It also holds with the villains in the stand alone Iron Man films personally challenging Tony Stark. Staine is Tony fighting a father figure. Iron Man 2 has Justin Hammer and Whiplash who act like the two sides of Tony - his ego and showmanship & his technical brilliance.

A villainous Pepper Potts who aspires to be Tony Stark has more depth than Killian.

 

Kingsley was hilarious as Trevor, but I agree that the Mandarin -and especially Killian- were botched pretty badly. It will be interesting to see -if and how- these fake Mandarins are addressed by Wenwu and/or in some manner in Shang-Chi.

 

don't get me started on IRON MAN 3 now

 

Michaela Coen joins Black Panther: Wakanda Forever in an undisclosed role.

Spoiler

Could we actually get our wish for Storm's MCU introduction here?

 

oh she had like a line or two in Last Jedi. The "They've found us!" officer, I think.

 

Really hoping for something great here. Blade and Blade 2 are among the best comic book movies ever made, in my opinion (Blade: Trinity, however, is... not ).

Part of me really wishes that we could just get an "Old Man" Blade movie with Wesley Snipes, divorced of the MCU, but Mahershala Ali is a wonderful actor and its cool that he brought the project to Marvel, rather than the other way around. Hoping for the best with this one!

 

Snipes as Whistler or they're just mutha%$%@as trying to ice stake uphill.