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Fanclub Yuuzhan'tar: The Yuuzhan Vong Homeworld

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Otto_den_Ktulu, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    Two "Crimson Empire" pictures by Paul Gulacy, merged and altered by me.
    What a pity we don't have an NJO image caption thread.[face_dunno]
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    Edit: Fixed link error.
     
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  2. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 8

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    All I see is a black X
     
  3. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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  4. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    Hi there,
    How would you speak the name Yun-Txiin? Tkhiin or Tksiin? I can't find any online audio books and I need to know that for making a video. Thank you!
     
  5. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yun(soft u as in under)-Tixin,

    Is probably how I would pronounce it.
     
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  6. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    So you would pronounce the x as ks or as kh?
     
  7. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    ks
     
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  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Are there any other mentions of Companion Cresh or of this race of beings before they met Aerimus?
     
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  9. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Not as far as I know. Based on the whole "Vong are near-human" thing in some of the early NJO books, I think that here, they're probably humans, which diverged to become their own separate descendant species.
     
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  10. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 8

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    Or it could just be SW authors using near-human as meaning humanoid instead of being related to humanity, they have done it before.
     
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  11. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Could be. Still, it was. enough to convince Saxton of Star Wars Technical Commentaries.

    https://www.theforce.net/swtc/humans.html#yuuzhanvong

    Physically the Yuuzhan Vong are human except for slight differences of height, mass and distribution of hair [Vector Prime p.23]. They carry different values and culture, which are at one extreme of the range of human possibilities, but they appear to be the same in all other ways.

    The similarity demands explanation. It seems likely that the invaders are indeed members of the same species or genus as the humans of the Skywalker galaxy. The origins of humanity in STAR WARS are lost in prehistory and the species has spread across one whole galaxy, so it is easy to imagine that humans may have colonised other galaxies in the long-forgotten past. If the STAR WARS galaxy is not our own then there must have been at least some intergalactic travel importing the species from the Milky Way, deep in the prehistory before the establishment of the Old Republic.

    If they are human or near-human then the existence of the Yuuzhan Vong constitutes a vital point of data about the status of all human species in the STAR WARS milleu.

    another important fact is that a lot of their biotech is human-compatible:
    p100 Agents of Chaos 1 Hero's Trial:

    "Essentially we are dealing with a near-human species," Eicroth said, "both externally and internally - excepting, for the moment, the semi sentient reptoid proxy groups the Yuuzhan Vong deployed at Dantooine, Garqi, and Ithor. This is borne out by the fact that Jedi Master Luke Skywalker suffered no ill effects after donning both a Yuuzhan Vong coralskipper cognition hood and an organic breathing apparatus."
     
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  12. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 8

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    Just wondering, how many species was the vong-tech shown to be not compatible with?
     
  13. Iron_lord

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    No idea.

    But Supernatural Encounters taking the "Vong did not evolve on Yuuzhan'tar, but emigrated to it" approach does make a certain amount of sense.
     
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  14. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Grrr….I hate that so much. Absolute worst retcon conceived.

    The Yuuzhan Vong are not near human. They have black-blueish blood which is biological evidence enough I think.

    Beyond that-their physiological traits are humanoid but not close to the human baseline.
     
  15. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't know Supernatural Encounters yet, but read one reddit-thread about it. For me the Yuuzhan Vong are as human as Twi'leks and that is enough for me. Why they retconned the YV to be not from Yuuzhan'tar originally - I don't know. Maybe they supported Yomin Carr's allegation, Danni Quee did support in Vector Prime.
     
  16. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That was referring to the Vong scout ship. Not the Vong's origin homeworld.
     
  17. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 8

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    Was it ever actually confirmed that it was Vong? Also, a scout ship that appear 5000 years before the main force is probably not a scout ship.
     
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  18. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    When you are referring to my posting above, it was a worldship, not an outspoken scout ship. But if you consider the Praetorite Vong as the vanguard of the Yuuzhan Vong, you may call that worldship a scoutship too.

    Anyway, I meant that sarcastic. I compared Iron Lord's remark
    with Danni's words

    Both is absurd for me, while I'm aware that the Crew of Belkadan didn't know that time. But for you did reply to Iron Lord directly, I thought my reference to be clear, sorry.
     
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  19. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So there are some aspects of Vong society I wish had been expanded on.

    First off-their economy. We know very little about it, and since they grow everything they don't seem to have much of a market. Does this mean they are post scarcity, a command economy or what? As far as I can tell, they have no currency or any equivalent.

    Secondly, I want to know more about their theology-we have the basic creation myth. But I would think a priest caste, would spend much of its time developing a theology around the gods, their aspects, relationships, and so on. We know little about how Vong religion informs say-the average Vong warrior's life beyond devotion to Yun-Yammka. What are his daily prayers like?

    Also I wish we had gotten more expansion on the Yuuzhan Vong language. Its got a guttural roughness to it, but also a heavy elegance as well. In my opinion. Someone should have created a full language.

    Does anybody else have things they wish were expanded, or had been added or explored regarding Vong culture, politics, or society?
     
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  20. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    I would have liked to have seen/read a more detailed story of their battle against the Yevetha: one vicious fanatical species vs another.
     
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  21. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So I wanted to ask, what sort of musical theme would everyone associate with the Yuuzhan Vong? Would it be melancholic or upbeat? I'd think it would have a more "organic" or give a feeling of being natural. Disharmonious.
     
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  22. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    @Darth Invictus,

    How about Hard Metal!


    BTW: My sons did watch a film of Lord of the Rings today and the younger one, nine years old, said: "This guy is looking like Tsavong Lah". He was one of the Orcs.
     
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  23. xezene

    xezene Jedi Master star 4

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    Might be of some interest here:
     
  24. CampOfSorgan

    CampOfSorgan Jedi Knight star 3

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    I love that TV spot.

    “I face a new challenge unlike any before.. and I’m not sure this time, we can win.”
    With the Emperor’s theme playing in the background. That music fits well with any ominous threat. Excellent!
     
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  25. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Silly question, potentially, as I am not sure how many of you all RP.

    If I was tempted to run a game post-NJO on the forums, largely from the Yuuzhan Vong perspective, what would people's thoughts be?