ST Master Filmmaking Team announced! JJ now writing the script

No he is not saying the same thing. Devin is saying it's a full restart. Starting over. Entirely new thing. That is not what Drew is saying. He even says he has no doubt the eventual film will contain many things from Arndt's script.
Drew is suggesting something more akin to a significant revision, not a wholesale discarding of characters and storyline. That is what Devin has said. That would mean tossing Lucas' story, which KK just today said they had in place.

 

Not necessarily.

 

I find it funny and SAD at the same time the amount of ABSURD "Jump-into-Conclusions" opinions I've read in 1 day, Good God!

 

Also keep in mind that if they truly are using Episode IV as inspiration, it's possible they'll be saving loads of time not working on gigantic 3 part space battles. When thinking of watching these films in order, taking in another apocalyptic space battle after Episode VI might be recognized as a bit much for the story.

 

The treatment was done by Lucas, wasn't Arndt in place to turn that treatment into a script for the movie?

Badass Digest suggests an entire re-write is going to happen. That may not be true but if it is then how much of the treatment is Abrams taking seriously? Lucas wrote the treatment and Arndt would have based his work on that, if Abrams wants an overhaul that suggests he doesn't like the story much.

 

I already posted this but will post again:

People can say DELAY all day long or until they're blue in the face BUT for a massive company like LFL/Disney and all the licenses they have toieds to E7 AND all the plans for Rebels and Spinoffs and Episodes 8 & 9 they have Z E R O, N I L L, N O N E interest or plans to delay Episode 7 in any way. Too much money is riding on it. So while fans can say, "Yeah, just push it back to May 2016" like it's no big deal -- it is a VERY BIG DEAL.

The furthest push I could fathom is no later than December 2015. A realistic date is now July 2015 and May might be tough. But definitely NOT 2016.

 

I don't think I said 2016,but whatever.

 

Well I guess this is inevitable:

 

Pretty sure all that ever came out about the treatment was that it was based on Lucas' original outlines, not that Arndt didnt help with the treatment.

 

Here's a thought for you guys that I hope won't get lost in the fray.

What if this was always supposed to happen? In other words, what if they said from the beginning, "We'll start with George's treatments, let Ardnt do most of the script/screenplay/etc., and then let JJ/K make final adjustments?" If that is the case (and it might be, we don't know for sure), then production is probably farther along than most would believe.

 

Fair 'nuff. Both acknowledge that "everyone" was hearing about disputes over some story points. I love Drew's "read" on KK's language.

 

First of all, I have never in my life seen such panic over something so trivial. These reactions are actually making me feel anxious, just by reading them. And there's a lot of nonsense being thrown around as a result of these infantile reactions. One thing I keep seeing over and over is something to the degree of "Arndt wrote Hunger Games, therefore he brought that sentiment to Star Wars." Do what? This is an Oscar-winning screenwriter. We really think that he is going to carry residue from one of his previous projects onto his next one? Is that really what we're saying, here?

All of these tweets and "weighing-in" from fansites all read like headlines from the Hindenburg! I keep seeing spinning newspapers wheeling through the void with pictures of a disgraced Arndt and a villainous Abrams looking down at him with Dracula eyebrows from his dark tower. What reads to some as a natural progression in the production of a film (at best, or at worst a hiccup in vision and creative insight) reads to others as the destruction of a franchise. Can we please, for the love of my sweet Jesus, all take a collective breath of sanity and logicality?

I mean I'm obsessed with Star Wars as much as the next person here, but I really don't think I can take much more of this. We've gone from indifferent speculation to chaos in the streets with fanboys screaming for the hills with their hair on fire.

 

Arndt expanded GL's outlines into full treatments, which made up a 45 page treatment for the entire ST that KK apparently loved. Arndt them wrote the screenplay based off his treatments of GLs outlines.

 

There were disputes over ESB and ROTJ story points too. This is nothing new. Buy the Making of books with the story conferences. They're hilarious and hopeful in that they show that in dispute and difference can come better ideas.

 

That doesn't follow. Assuming he didn't like the script doesn't mean he disliked the story.

 

Especially when he came onboard after seeing Lucas' treatments and before Arndt was hired.

 

LOL completely agree. It's not the news that's freaking people out it's actually the reactions that are. Fear feeding off of fear. Sadly it's a part of the Internet and always happens. I remember when Heath died, everyone was 100% confirmed even some big sites that the film was doomed, and they would have to re-shoot everything even though the press release said...no. The thing that is interesting is people are acting as if they read Ardnt's script already and are mad it was "changed" in whatever way. Like I've said before, a giant corporation like Disney wants things done as soon as possible, but for them to agree with JJ and actually allow for possible change/delays, they must of felt he was right in a lot of ways. JJ is a massive SW fan. He knows that his whole career is riding on this. I'm sure he is making sure this film is the best it can be because he will forever be judged on it.

 

Exactly. GL was at loggerheads with everyone else during ROTJ over the Ewoks and Had Abaddon vs the Death Star. He won because he was the boss and also because he was able to win people around.

 

I mostly agree with your post. however, I was the one making the connection to his work on Hunger Games and always made those connections in the form of a question. As in "COULD this be why he was removed?"

But I especially agree that the panick of others is exacerbating the situation.

Just to be exact George wrote treatments for all 3 of the ST. Arndt wrote treatments and then was hired to write the script.

 

I just think its odd that they would say Summer 2015 on a brochure at a conference only a week ago.

 

That's incorrect. Arndt has been hired before Abrams and had already written the treatments.

 

Ok then. It still stands that Abrams agreed to come on board after seeing them. Folks are trying to make us believe that he must have did so just so he could change it later.

 

I think GL wrote outlines, not treatments. I believe this another example of fudging around the issue as we've seen before with GLs vision of the saga. But I can't prove that.

 

I knew I had read that somewhere that he helped Lucas with the treatments. Wasn't that in the original announcement about him doing the script?This tells me Arndt's input may stay intact throughout if he contributed to the nuts and bolts of the story. And if he helped with the treatments he may get a "story by" credit at least.