Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

I'll keep saying it. Legends doesn't necessarily mean non-canon. It means a different continuity, technically an AU but without any time travel stuff.

 

Same practical difference.

The important thing about canon is not how real it is, since it is all just fiction in the end, but how likely it is to be used again.

Admittedly, the new canon stuff is free to use legends materials except where it interferes with the new movies, but they are just as free to contradict it as well (though it is not like there not contradictions before.)

 

I still stand by my idea that the two types of meterial can coexist mostly harmlessly, and I've confirmed it personally with a grand readthrough of much of the material at the same time I watched the show, but I will no longer attempt to manage it beyond what I have already done.

For me, the issue is now closed and my time with this thread is over. I will leave up the timeline I put out for those of you who choose to use it, and I will let the rest of you pick and choose as you like. I just hope what was accomplished here serves as a model to keep at least some of what we loved before the EU Purge/Order 666. But in the end, to each his own.

Goodbye people, it's been fun. If I come back, it'll mostly be for discussion of Sons of Dathomir, but that's probably it.

 

Can we get the list one last time?

 

This should be the most up to date version based on previous critiques since the last time I posted. Minor stuff like switching around a few LoE chapters, and adding a few small short stories I missed. I doubt I'll post another revision for a long while though if at all. I don't think I'll be able to even find the clone wars UK comics, and there's probably not gonna be much new material to even add to the timeline in the future. Have fun, all.

Month 1-? (9 to 12) ABG (After the Battle of Geonosis)
Boba Fett 1: The Fight to Survive (chapters 1-21)(Scholastic)
Death in the Catacombs (Insider #79)
Elusion Illusion: A Tale of the Clone Wars(Insider #66)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 8: One of a Kind
Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns(Lucasarts)
Sev'Rance Tan Campaign: Missions 7.2–7.7
Echuu Shen-Jon Campaign: Missions 8.2–8.6
The Clone Wars(Lucasarts)
Rhen Var: Mission 4
Raxus Prime: Mission 5
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire(chapters 1–8)
The Clone Wars (Raxus Prime: Missions 6–7) (Lucasarts)
Boba Fett#1: The Fight to Survive (chapters 22–end) (Scholastic)
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire (chapters 9–12)
Republic #49: Sacrifice
The Clone Wars (Lucasarts)
Alaris Prime: Missions 8–10
Rhen Var: Missions 11–12
Thule Moon: Mission 13
Thule: Missions 14–16
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 6–7
Republic #50: The Defense of Kamino
Brothers in Arms
Jango's Legacy
No End in Sight
Republic #51–52: The New Face of War
The Pengalan Tradeoff
League of Spies
Republic Commando: Hard Contact(Chapter 2–end) (Del Rey)
Omega Squad: Targets (Insider Story)
Jedi: Mace Windu: Schism
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 8: Old Scores
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 10: Graduation Day
Tales #14: Tides of Terror
Republic#53: Blast Radius
Storm Fleet Warnings (Hasbro Short Story Collection)
Duel(Hasbro Short Story Collection)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 1–5
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 1: Fierce Currents(Dark Horse)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 12–16(Cartoon Network series: Season Two)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 8–10 (Cartoon Network series: Season One)
Clone Wars: Volume I(Cartoon Network series: Season Two)
Episode 11
Episodes 17–20
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 21 (first segment)
Jedi: Shaak Ti: Catspaw(Dark Horse)
Clone Wars Adventures(Dark Horse)
Volume 3:
Rogue's Gallery
Volume1:
Blind Force
Heavy Metal Jedi
Volume 2:
Hide in Plain Sight(CWA: Free Comic Book Day)
Run Mace Run
Skywalkers(flashback)
Volume 3:
The Package
A Stranger in Town
One Battle
Volume 7:
Spy Girl
This Precious Shining
Volume 8:
Versus
Pathways
Volume 9:
Salvaged
Appetite for Adventure
Life Below
No Way Out
Volume 10:
Chain of Command
Waiting
Clone Wars Adventures
Volume 7: Impregnable
Republic #54: Double Blind
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Shatterpoint(chapters 1–23)(Del Rey)
Legacy of the Jedi(pages 145–end) (Scholastic)
Jedi: Count Dooku(Dark Horse)
The New Droid Army(Lucasarts)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:2:12(Insider #65)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:2:14(Insider #65)
The Clone Wars: Hero of Cartao (Wizards of the Coast)
Episode I: Hero's Call (Insider #68)
Episode II: Hero's Rise (Insider #69)
Episode III: Hero's End (Insider #70)
Tales #19: Rather Darkness Visible
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:3:10 Edition(Insider #66)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:3:22 (Insider #66)
Tales #22: Honor Bound
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:4:12 Edition(Insider #67)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:4:14(Insider #67)
Clone Wars Adventures (Dark Horse)
Volume 5: Bailed Out
Volume 6
It Takes a Thief
Means and Ends
The Cestus Deception(Del Rey)
Republic HoloNet News Core Edition 14:7:02 (Insider #68)
Republic
#55: Rainmakers
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:9:01(Insider #69)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:9:04(Insider #70)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:9:08 Edition(Insider #69)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:9:15 Edition(Insider #70)
#56: Stormchasers
#57: Lightning Rods
#58: Floodgates
#59: Enemy Lines
#61: Dead Ends***
#63: Striking from the Shadows
#64: Bloodlines
#60: Hate and Fear
#62: No Man's Land
Jedi: Yoda(Dark Horse)
#65-66: Show of Force
#67: Forever Young
General Grievous #1–4(Dark Horse)
Republic #68: Armor
Jedi Trial(Del Rey)
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 21 (remainder of the episode)
Republic#69–71: Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Clone Wars Adventures (Dark Horse)
Volume 4: Another Fine Mess
Volume 4: The Brink
Volume 7: Creature Comforts
Volume 10: Thunder Road

Month ?(9-12) -32 ABG
-GAME: Jedi Alliance (Sedawan, Coruscant, Rodia, Christophsis)
-WEB/116: Shadowed (page 1)
2.16: Cat and Mouse
-WEB/116: Shadowed (rest)
1.16: The Hidden Enemy
-RPG: WotC Miniatures/RPG: 25 to Rescue
-NOVEL1: The Clone Wars (film novelization)
The Clone Wars (Film)
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire(chapters 13-end)**
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Tethan Battle Adventure
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: The Way of the Jedi
-GAME: Jedi Alliance (Battle of the Devastation)
-SHORT: Outfoxed
-COMVOL4: Colossus of Destiny
-COMVOL5: The Deadly Hands of Shon-Ju
-JRNOVEL: Journey Through Hyperspace (UK)
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Crisis on Coruscant
3.01: Clone Cadets
-WEB/118: Covetous
3.03: Supply Lines
-WEB/101: Prelude
1.01: Ambush
-WEB/103: Procedure
-COMVOL1: Shipyards of Doom
-WEB/102: Shakedown
-PODCAST1: HoloNet News 1 - A Galaxy Divided
1.02: Rising Malevolence
1.03: Shadow of Malevolence
-WEB/104: Agenda
1.04: Destroy Malevolence
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #1: Breakout Squad
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #2: Black Hole Pirates
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #3: Duel at the Shattered Rock
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #4: Guardians of the Chiss Key
-WEB/105: Mouse Hunt
1.05: Rookies
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Crisis on Coruscant
-NOVEL2: Wild Space
-WEB/106: The Fall of Falleen
1.06: Downfall of a Droid
-WEB/107: Discount
1.07: Duel of the Droids
-NOVEL3: No Prisoners
-COMVOL2: Crash Course
-COMVOL 3: The Wind Raiders of Taloraan
-PODCAST2: HoloNet News 2 - Rodia Supply Lanes Attacked by Pirates!
-WEB/108: Departure
1.08: Bombad Jedi
-WEB/109: Transfer
1.09: Cloak of Darkness
-WEB/110: The Dreams of General Grievous
1.10: Lair of Grievous
-GAME: Lightsaber Duels (Separatist Droid Lab)
-PODCAST3: HoloNet News 3 - Chancellor Palpatine's Approval Ratings Fall
-WEB/111: Bait
1.11: Dooku Captured
-WEB/112: Switch
1.12: The Gungan General
-WEB/113: Headgames
1.13: Jedi Crash
-WEB/114: Neighbors
1.14: Defenders of Peace
-WEB/115: Cold Snap
1.15: Trespass
-WEB/117: The Valley
1.17: Blue Shadow Virus
1.18: Mystery of a Thousand Moons
-WEB/119: Curfew
1.19: Storm Over Ryloth
1.20: Innocents of Ryloth
-WEB/120: The Ballad of Cham Syndulla
1.21: Liberty on Ryloth
-SWTCW: In the Service of the Republic
-GAME: Republic Heroes
2.01: Holocron Heist
2.02: Cargo of Doom
-WEB/201: Act On Instinct, Part 1
-WEB/202: Act On Instinct, Part 2
-WEB/203: Act On Instinct, Part 3
2.03: Children of the Force
-WEB/204-215: Act On Instinct, Part 4-End
-WEB/3: The Valsedian Operation
2.17: Bounty Hunters
2.18: The Zillo Beast
2.19: The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
2.04: Senate Spy
2.05: Landing at Point Rain
2.06: Weapons Factory
2.07: Legacy of Terror
2.08: Brain Invaders
-SWTCW: Hero of the Confederacy
2.09: Grievous Intrigue
2.10: The Deserter
2.11: Lightsaber Lost
2.12: The Mandalore Plot
2.13: Voyage of Temptation
2.14: Duchess of Mandalore
Boba Fett#3:Maze of Deception(Scholastic)**
Boba Fett #4: Hunted(Scholastic)**
2.20: Death Trap
2.21: R2 Come Home
2.22: Lethal Trackdown
3.05: Corruption
3.06: The Academy
-FCBD2009: The Gauntlet of Death
-NOVEL4: Clone Wars Gambit: Stealth
-NOVEL5: Clone Wars Gambit: Siege
3.07: Assassin
3.02: ARC Troopers
3.04: Sphere of Influence
3.08: Evil Plans
-WEB/121: Invitation Only
1.22: Hostage Crisis
-WEB/122: Hunting the Hunters, Part I
-WEB/XX1: Gunship Over Florrum
-GAME: Gunship Over Florrum
-PODCAST5: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 2)
-PODCAST6: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 3)
-PODCAST7: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 4)
-PODCAST8: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 5)
3.09: Hunt for Ziro
-WEB/123: Hunting the Hunters, Part II
-GAME: Swamp Station Sweep
-WEB/XX2: Swamp Station Sweep
-WEB/124: Hunting the Hunters, Part III
-WEB/XX3: Droids Over Iego
-GAME: Droids Over Iego
-COMVOL 6: The Starcrusher Trap
3.10: Heroes on Both Sides
3.11: Pursuit of Peace
2.15: Senate Murders
3.12: Nightsisters
3.13: Monster
3.14: Witches of the Mist
-COMVOL 7: Strange Allies
-SWTCW: Opress Unleashed
3.15: Overlords
3.16: Altar of Mortis
3.17: Ghosts of Mortis
3.18: The Citadel
3.19: Counterattack
3.20: Citadel Rescue
-COMVOL 8: The Enemy Within
3.21: Padawan Lost
3.22: Wookiee Hunt
4.01: Water War
4.02: Gungan Attack
4.03: Prisoners
4.04: Shadow Warrior
4.05: Mercy Mission
4.06: Nomad Droids
4.07: Darkness on Umbara
4.08: The General
4.09: Plan of Dissent
4.10: Carnage of Krell
4.11: Kidnapped
4.12: Slaves of the Republic
4.13: Escape from Kadavo
4.14: A Friend in Need
4.15: Deception
4.16: Friends and Enemies
4.17: The Box
4.18: Crisis on Naboo
Obsession #1–5(Dark Horse)*
4.19: Massacre
4.20: Bounty
-The Wrath of Darth Maul
4.21: Brothers
4.22: Revenge
-COMVOL 9: The Sith Hunters
-Darth Maul: Death Sentence
(Note: Death Sentence is said to occur in the "3rd year" of the war, likely putting the events of at least season 5 no earlier than 25ABG).
- Insider Story: Silently Speaking
-COMVOL 10: Defenders of the Lost Temple
-COMVOL 11: The Smuggler's Code
5.02: A War on Two Fronts
5.03: Front Runners
5.04: The Soft War
5.05: Tipping Points
5.06: The Gathering
5.07: A Test of Strength
5.08: Bound for Rescue
5.09: A Necessary Bond
5.10: Secret Weapons
5.11: A Sunny Day in the Void
5.12: Missing in Action
5.13: Point of No Return
5.01: Revival (Put in proper order on DVD/BD release, aired early on TV)
5.14: Eminence
5.15: Shades of Reason
5.16: The Lawless
5.17: Sabatoge
5.18: The Jedi Who Knew Too Much
5.19: To Catch a Jedi
5.20: The Wrong Jedi
6.01 - The Unknown
6.02 - Conspiracy
6.03 - Fugitive
6.04 - Orders
6.05 - An Old Friend
6.06 - The Rise of Clovis
6.07 - Crisis at the Heart
6.08 - The Disappeared (Part 1)
6.09 - The Disappeared (Part 2)

(Old EU Material with only approx. order/placement during PRE-YODA arc TCW time period)
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 22 (likely spread throughout TCW)
Republic Commando: The Chaykin Cluster (Campaign 2; Lucasarts)
Republic Commando: Triple Zero(Del Rey)
Star Wars #24: Silent Drifting(flashback)(Marvel)
Odds (Insider Short Story)
Republic Commando: True Colors
Visionaries: Deep Forest (Dark Horse)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:2:29 Edition(Insider #74)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:3:02(Insider #75) (Both must occur before Farr's death, so likely earlier than their original placement. Probably late 21BBY.)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch Year's Start Fete Day Edition (Insider #72) (clearly starts in 20BBY)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:03(Insider #72)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:13(Insider #73)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:01:15 Edition(Insider #73)
Changing Seasons (Wizards of the Coast)
Part I: Guardian of the People (Insider #76: Hyperspace)
Part II: People of the Guardian (Insider #77; Hyperspace)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:2:22 (Insider #74)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:3:21 Edition(Insider #76)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:3:29(Insider #76)
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous(Del Rey) (Probably early S3, before the Nightsisters arc.)
Medstar I: Battle Surgeons(Del Rey)
Medstar: Intermezzo(Insider #83; IDG Entertainment; Hyperspace)
Medstar II: Jedi Healer(Del Rey) (I+II are likely before Season 4)
Secrets of the Jedi(Part Two: chapters 21 to 33) (Scholastic)
Routine Valor (Dark Horse: Free Comic Book Day) (Sometime before S5 droid arc. Late s3/early s4?)
Brothers in Arms (Dark Horse) (Shortly before LoE and the S6 Yoda Arc)

Month 33-36 ABG (Final stretch of the war, concurrent with the 2 final TCW arcs)
Labyrinth of Evil (Del Rey) - (Chapters 1-15)***
6.10 - The Lost One***
6.11 - Voices
6.12 - Destiny
6.13 - Sacrifice (TCW TV Finale)****
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:13(Insider #73)***
Republic #72–73: Trackdown
- Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir 1-4 (TCW Comic Finale)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 6: The Drop (Dark Horse)
Republic Commando: Order 66 (Pre-ROTS Chapters)
Visionaries - The Artist of Naboo (Dark Horse)
Boba Fett (Scholastic)
#5: A New Threat
#6: PursuitFree Comic Book Day (2005)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 5(Dark Horse)
What Goes Up...
Heroes on Both Sides
Visionaries (Dark Horse)
Wat Tambor and Quest for the Sacred Eye of the Albino Cyclops
Sithisis
Republic Commando: Kashyyyk (Mission 3) (Lucasarts)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 6: To the Vanishing Point(Dark Horse)
Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune
Republic#74–77: Siege of Saleucami
Labyrinth of Evil (Del Rey) - (Chapters 16-End)***
Clone Wars Volume II - Chapters 23-25

*Obsession is perhaps the single toughest issue to tackle in the entire new timeline, due to it being the original ending story for both Ventress and Adi Gallia, both of whom have seemingly had their fates changed by TCW. Officially, Chee said that it is not Adi's final canon death nor the canon end of Ventress' story. After debating what to do about this story for 3 years, I have stumbled upon what I believe to be the best possible solution. Obsession occurs between seasons 3 and 4, after Ventress leaves Dooku, but before she begins bounty hunting. Dooku secretly recaptures her and brainwashes her. Anakin assumed her dead because of the chaos in their last fight in Witches of the Mist. Adi is wounded by Grievous, but survives this fight. After faking her death, Ventress escapes and eventually returns to the Nightsisters. Because she never works with Dooku again after Obsession, the original intent of the story (her escape from the war, and from Dooku) is preserved, while the story can still happen before Adi dies. Ultimately, her fate can be decided by future canon without contradiction, if ever.

**Originally, I was going to have Boba Fett books 2-3 occur before TCW, but it turns out there is a source which claims Boba's escape from Bespin is roughly the same time as the TCW film. As a result, I am moving his escape ahead while keeping the rest of the book 2's events earlier. Books 3 and 4 now occur shortly before the events of the first Boba arc. Putting aside their differences, and having now gained Jabba's respect, Boba Fett decided to work together with Aura Sing after book #3 and 4, sometime after recovering Slave I from her, leading to the first Boba Fett s2 arc. Boba later loses it again in TCW to Hondo, but recovers it in an unknown story after s5, before Book #5. The helmet that was destroyed in his first arc was one of many. He remains in prison for quite some until the Rako Hardeen Arc. Shortly after escaping, he returns to working for Jabba the Hutt. He becomes a full time bounty hunter by the time we get to the s4 finale arc. Books 5-6 can occur in 19BBY as they were originally intended, sometime after the events of Season 5.

***The Lost One presented us with some rather unique problems that needed to be resolved after certain conversations in the EU. In LoE Chapter 11, Yoda and Obiwan had not yet learned that Tyranus was Dooku, yet it is discovered in this episode. In that chapter, they have an extensive conversation about Sifo-Dyas, the mysterious nature of the clones, and the mystery of a man named Tyranus being behind it. In The Lost One, the Jedi learn that Dooku was in fact Tyranus, so events have been moved shortly after the Cato Nemoidia campaign chapters to ensure that LoE still makes sense. Furthermore, Finis Valorum is still alive in the episode. His death by an Anzat assassin was 'not' confirmed until Republic 73, so that story must still occur after the Yoda arc, along with the holonews entry about his memorial. It has been decided that while Valorum evaded his assassination in the exploding transport (original canon suggested he was never on that transport to begin with), his would be assassin did not in fact find Valorum immediately. The events are presented very vaguely in the issue, with Vos mentioning the shuttle exploding, and the Anzat taking out Valorum, but no details. Valorum succeeded in going underground for a time, until he later resurfaced back in Galactic City, where he was 'finally' taken out after Sidious decided he got a bit 'too' close to revealing bits about Sifo-Dyas, thereby pushing Sora Bulq's assassin to finish her hunt. These retcons account for both his survival, and the Jedi learning about Tyranus in this episode, and also push the Yoda arc closer to EP III due to the major revelations of this arc. Events of LoE as a whole now occur more gradually spread out over an extra 2 months. Finally, one must take some things into consideration when addressing the Sifo-Dyas timeline. The timeline of his death is implied to be before Palpatine became Chancellor, but since Valorum does not remember the exact timeline of events, it is reasonable to assume that the mission with the Pykes began under Valorum and ended shortly after episode I once Dooku left the order, betraying his friend to gain control of the clone order. Sifo-Dyas probably confided in Dooku, ordered the clones BEFORE his death (since the Kaminoans know Tyranus is not Sifo-Dyas), and Dooku THEN took over the operation and chose Jango Fett as the template AFTER killing Sifo-Dyas, leaving the events seen in Bounty Hunter intact. Dialogue within the episode allows for this to be possible, especially if you assume Palpatine merely denied having 'any' involvement with Sifo-Dyas (which was definitely a lie). Finally, the Seige of Saleucami still started 5 months before Republic 74, it was now just a longer ongoing campaign that Master Rancisis and Quinlan did not join for the first 3 or so months. A campaign at Saleucami was mentioned as beginning in the s5 fugitive arc, so we can now tie the two references together as the early stages of the Outer Rim Sieges and start of the battle.

****Leland Chee pretty much confirmed in a Q&A after a screening that Moraband is just another name for Korriban. Lucas is a silly man. We know. The world, however, is explicitly the same. Darth Bane appears to Yoda in an ashy unknown Sith armor, said to be just an illusion, which could explain him wearing never before seen armor. However, given that Bane died by being turned to ashes, it is always possible he 'does' still haunt the planet in some ways just as so many Sith have before him. Who knows what Yoda saw?

 

Thank you kindly sir.

 

I know this question is probably moot since "officially" half of this timeline is probably "Legends", but is Obi-Wan ever explained as being removed from the High Council and then reinstated during the Clone Wars? In the microseries, he is obviously on the Council urging them to make Anakin a knight, which they do. But in the novel "The Clone Wars-Gambit: Stealth", which takes place after Anakin's knighting, Obi-Wan explicitly says that he's "not on the Council". Then he's back on it by ROTS. Strange.

 

Pretty sure the Clone Wars novels are also Legends now... or lets better say "Notorious"

 

The way I see it is that as Anakin's master he gets a say on if Anakin can be Knight and gets a seat for the meeting and gets to be one of the Jedi in the circle with the lightsabers at the end.
Don't remember if he said anything about Grievous though.

 

you're done with the forums? or just timelining?

 

Just this thread and my attempts to mend TCW continuity. I've been reading it almost daily for at least 4-5 years now. Even if the EU purge is my least wanted outcome, I doubt I can just walk away from the fandom that easily.

That, and there's not much more I need to do now. You're a smart lot.

 

And with that HEDGESMFG's body fades into nothingness and becomes one with the Force.

 

I've been thinking about The Clone Wars era again the last couple of days, and I've realized that many of us (myself included) were likely making a mountain out of a molehill for the last six years.

The TV show changing already established facts about Mandalore, Maul's survival/background, ect. is annoying, don't get me wrong. But just how much has that effect spilled over to the novels and comics released from January 2008 to now, and how tightly wound is The Clone Wars now with the EU, actually? Is there a lot of specific detail in some cases, or just vague references. (Hint: I'm thinking Fate of the Jedi here).

From 2008 to now we've had published:

Dawn of the Jedi - three comic arcs & one novel
Lost Tribe of the Sith
The Old Republic - four novels, three comic arcs, and one video game
Red Harvest & Deathtroopers
Knights of the Old Republic (Zayne Carrick comics)
Knight Errant - three comic arcs & one novel
Darth Plagueis
Wrath of Darth Maul
Life and Legened of Obi-Wan Kenobi
Lockdown
Purge
Various The Clone Wars novels, comics, ect tied into the new TV show
the last two Republic/Imperial Commando novels
Kenobi
Coruscant Nights
The Force Unleashed
Rebellion
Empire & Rebellion
Invasion
the last two LOTF novels
Crosscurrent/Riptide
Miilennium Falcon
Fate of the Jedi
Mercy Kill
Crucible
Legacy

 

According to the official site, the Moraband ghosts were illusions created by the Priestesses and the dark side.

Who knows what illusions are in SW, since they have physical impacts elsewhere in the show.

 

Zeta1127, anakinfansince1983

After a quick search of the Wook, it seems that the fans who have complained about Mortis being in FOTJ have blown it all out of proportion.

Abeloth is the Big One, yes, but she's not mentioned by name until Abyss and doesn't appear until Allies. Mortis itself is only mentioned in Apocalypse. The dagger is only mentioned in Apocalypse and Crucible. Ashoka Tano isn't even namedropped in any post-LOTF books.

For those of us who prefer the original Clone Wars timeline, why not just treat the mentions of Mortis and the hunt for the dagger in FOTJ as fallout from an unexplained and unchronicled mission that Anakin and Obi-Wan undertook during the Clone Wars and be done with it instead of griping?

 

After re-watching the Mortis episodes, I have to agree, qualified by the fact that the first episode is actually okay. It's a bit over-the-top and Avatar: The Last Airbender, yes, but it isn't really unwatchable, some of the dialogue is good and the foreshadowing isn't dumped on with a shovel. The second and third episodes, though, fully deserve the ridicule they get. If they'd just ended it after the first one, which they totally could have done, it wouldn't have been that bad. Once Obi-Wan has to get the Prince of Persia dagger, it all starts going downhill fast.

 

So everything starts out well on part one, and progressively gets worse through parts two and three...

That is not a good sign for Trilogy #3.

 

Mortis was the best part of TCW.

 

Jedi have a history of "filling in" for missing or dead council members temporarily before becoming permanent council members. This is mostly done to fix continuity problems like this one. Jedi Apprentice did this for an accidental appearance by Ki-Adi-Mundi--I'd say that's what happened to Obi-Wan here; it's more likely than having him be removed from the council and having to be reinstated.

TC

 

Where did you find that on the official site? All I could find in the episode guide was this:

"Facing all that you fear will free you from yourself."
After many grueling trials, Yoda next travels to the ancient Sith home world of Moraband, where he must face an ancient evil determined to rule the galaxy.

 

http://starwars.com/explore/encyclopedia/locations/moraband/

Undead Sith are still canon.
Thanks, Filoni!

 

I think it means that conjuring illusions is a power of the Dark Side, not that the Sith can retain any power after death.

 

Yeah, my guess was that the "Darth Bane" that Yoda encountered was rather like the "Darth Vader" Luke encountered on Dagobah. It's not his spirit so much as an echo, about as real as an interactive holocron (though Force-based, rather than technology based). An accurate depiction of the Dark Lord, no doubt, but one ultimately without substance.