ST Episode 7 Plot Detail(?) from BadAss Digest: UPDATED - "the lightsaber". Talk to the hand, hand!

it fell to the planet with his hand you SEE it in esb. it's gone.



don't try to out "star wars" me. ha ha!

 

I am imagining a scene when John and Daisy first take possession of the lightsaber. John goes to ignite it. The theatre is on the edge of their seats with anticipation. Is it blue? Is it green? But right then the stormtroopers attack and we don't find out until much later.


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1) why would they even care to return the saber?
2) how would they find someone who has been missing for 30 years?

 

I don't have a problem with the sabre being somehow found on Bespin (sucked up into a cloud mining machine, or whatever).

The real question is what Satipo is asking. Are we supposed to accept that this is some sort of cosmic coincidence?

 

Yes there are a lot of possibilities. You're right. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying, what's most likely in my brain when I'm trying to piece together the story. I'm not taking one piece of info and creating a story around it, i'm taking this piece of info, with the others, and keeping in mind the characters we know of (or think we know of) motivation for going on an adventure.

The lightsaber will not be the call to action. It's a symbolic thing on film and will probably not be focused on more than a few minutes - just as anakin's to Luke wasn't. Which really is quite a meaningful direct passing down, especially since Luke wants to know everything about his father, and yet, he doesn't even mention it, he just turns it on and looks at it and then asks how his father died. he's more interested in his father than the lightsaber at this point. Why would it suddenly be different this time around ?

 

It is the will of the Force.

 

It's been done in the other two trilogies. Not sure why we couldn't accept this now

 

You're contradicting yourself. If Luke's lightsaber doesn't spur action, why would Anakin's?

 

In no way am I saying it's that lightsaber. But it's Star Wars. The lightsaber could be recovered. We have no idea what's at the core of Bespin. Again do I believe it's that lightsaber? No. Could it be? Yes.


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one more time. it's gone.

 

Obi gave Anakin his saber from the Prequels I'm assuming. Than Obi gave Luke Anakin's old Saber. Luke giving Anakin Saber doesn't really make sense to me cause again he lost it 33 years ago.

Obi >>>>>>> Anakin
Obi >>>>>>> Luke
Luke >>>>>> New Jedi

Pattern wise it makes sense but again it should be Luke's "Jedi" Saber.

 

no i think the falling out of the sky thing is made up. I believe the saber is on the planet already, waiting to be found. It's kind of more Aurthurian that way too.

 

If that's the main story of the movie, answers to that question will be given during the movie.
Of course there's going to be an explanation for that. Why would there be one?

 

It doesn't, i'm not contradicting myself at all. The lightsaber does not spur action. I've been saying this since I first commented. I have not changed that stance

 

Even the new rumour is saying the saber falls from the sky. So you're now ignoring two spoiler reports.

 

At least there's no more stupid hand.

 

the only way it works is if somehow it flies out of the gravitational pull of bespin and into space then travels to the ep 7 planet.

 

Maybe the idea with the hand and lightsaber falling from the sky was an early idea in one of the early drafts of the script.
Perhaps it has changed a lot since, even though the general idea remains the same, the execution will be different.
That's one of the reasons why I'm not dismissing the possibility of a similar scene, even though not 100% as it was described in the rumor.

 

That’s what BadAss Digest has to say. This Is Infamous says they talked to a source who said the hand was too gruesome a way to kick off the new Star Wars, but the lightsaber is a key:
“As it was explained to me, it is more of a through-line of the Skywalker legacy that connects the prequels to the Original Trilogy to this new trilogy. Imagine you would saw the prequels first. When Obi-Wan presents Anakin’s lightsaber to his son, that’s some pretty cool connective tissue. That’s the spirit in which this detail exists, so those of you crying over EPISODE VII being the return of Luke’s hand, take a deep breath and calm down. That’s not the case.”
I’m more inclined to believe that. The Skywalker Line vibe reads true to me and the callback to possession of the lightsaber used by Anakin and lost to space is a cool little beat to be our inciting incident.

that is the quote from the source. Where does it say it falls from the sky? he says lost to space. Again no where in the report does it say that. Writer infers it.
there is inference from the author later that goes back to the original report, but that's just him accepting that it still falls from the sky from someone who has now been contradicted with that whole opening. Are we to think the hand was the only thing he made up?

 

This must be the Elder Saber we are talking about. Remember, sabers understand their masters. And as for sabers happening to fall into the hands of the newbies, help will always come to those who deserve it.

 

What's funny is you got me thinking with this picture. What if the opening shot of the hand falling is real but misinterpreted? What if instead the movie starts with a flashback? Of Luke's hand falling in ESB still clutching the lightsaber. You see it fall through miles of clouds. And it finally lands on the planets core.


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I agree with Satipo that finding the saber creates some kind of plot point. Luke's saber makes the most sense for a plot point. Luke's saber also makes the most sense as a symbol, since he is the last remaining Jedi and never turned to the darkside, like Anakin.

That's a true passing of the torch. Anakin's saber was wielded by a Sith, cutting off Mace's arm. Not a very good symbol.

So, there must be something about Luke's green blade that has some kind of plot relevance.

For example, if Luke has been missing for some time, this is a clue that something bad might have happened to him. And it also might have a message in it.

Nothing's changed today in regards to which saber makes the most sense. Luke's ROTJ saber.

 

The only thing true, I believe out of the rumor is that there will be a lightsaber, and it will be used as a symbol to a character. I think a lot of the falling from the sky and what not is just hog wash and an attempt to create some visual to make the rumor sound exciting

 

I find it odd that anyone would think returning a lightsaber to someone would be the plot in a star wars movie.

 

The fact that (if this rumour and Jax are correct) that we see some little alien scavenger pick it up (which I kind of dig - it seems to have a jawas in ANH vibe to it) that makes it even more likely it's significant to the plot because otherwise you're spending time that has nothing significant to do with our leads or our plot.