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ST Episode 7 Plot Detail(?) from BadAss Digest: UPDATED - "the lightsaber". Talk to the hand, hand!

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  1. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe Luke hasn't used a lightsaber since ROTJ at all. Maybe his throwing it down in ROTJ was symbolic of him throwing in the towel to the whole Jedi thing.

    Until it comes back to him at the right moment by the right people.

    And maybe the place it lands is Endor and Puzzlewood's filming has something to do with it. I know they said desert, but things seem to be changing all the time anyway.
     
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  2. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    Star Wars Episode VII: A New Delivery Boy
     
  3. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Let's be clear -- the Bespin saber does not fall into space. It falls into a gas planet.

    Getting it into space is absurd. Hence, it won't be in space.

    Maybe they retcon Bespin and it's not a poisonous gas planet, and somehow people are walking around on sand and find it. I think that is equally absurd, and hence, must not be true.
     
  4. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    1)since he is the last remaining Jedi
    we don't know that yet (not 100%)
    2)For example, if Luke has been missing for some time, this is a clue that something bad might have happened to him. And it also might have a message in it.
    but if you leave a message, it could possibly fall to the wrong "hands"
     
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  5. Crystalia

    Crystalia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    reading the last page I have now modernised a popular phrase

    \"talk to the hand cuz the spoilers ain't listenin' " :p
     
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  6. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Only you are saying that. I'm saying it's a clue about Luke's whereabouts and to whether he's alive or dead.
     
  7. hachijedi

    hachijedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Honestly the "Hand" rumor is what started this **** storm.

    Mod edit: Gotta star out the whole word.
     
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  8. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    naw, could literally be under a minute worth of footage, do the jawas finding artoo mean artoo is essential to the plot? Nope. It means that artoo is fatefully given to Luke who then meets obiwan. Again the information is the plot. Artoo is the delivery mechanism. This sounds like you're stuck on the there's a message in the lightsaber, which now can be debunked especially if it's being found in junk
     
  9. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    then who cares about it? why would it be important?
     
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  10. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    What are you talking about? Artoo is essential to the plot. He gives Luke the message that starts him on his adventure and also has the DS plans inside his rusty innards.
     
  11. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    1 more page from 100, for the awesome hand rumor.;)
     
  12. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    But no one is answering why that would be an issue? Are you implying that everyone has been looking for Luke for 30 years? if so i could see that. But it's unlikely that is going to happen. If it is then we have to assume JB is really in his 50's but looks 20
     
  13. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    he's essential, but only because he's carrying the plot device. He could be any droid. He as a character is not essential. After the message is retrieved, they could have kicked him to the sand and left him on tatooine and the movie would still have went on. point is, artoo is not the key, the plans to the death star is and the message from leia
     
  14. hachijedi

    hachijedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm sorry but Luke needs to get some insurance on his hands, seriously, lol:

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    They have to use something to convey the information. Something to kickstart the plot. In ANH R2 was the plot device they chose to achieve this. The two rumour reports this whole thread is based upon are saying it the saber that (somehow - we don't know the details) kicks off a search for Luke Skywalker. You seem determined to ignore this.
     
  16. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    I literally have no idea what you're saying.

    Why would people care about knowing if Luke is alive? That's pretty obvious.

    Either JB and DR have some interest in Luke, or else that interest comes from Han. It's not rocket science.

    Just because we're lacking details doesn't mean there aren't details.
     
  17. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    Because they want to believe the story in their heads they've come up with. Luke is in peril and no information will contradict that. Even when the reports that sparked that have been proven wrong.
     
  18. Crystalia

    Crystalia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just because we're lacking details doesn't mean there aren't details.
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    this, pretty much.
     
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  19. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    Just like Football (soccer) players.;) In what currency would the insurance be?:p
     
  20. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    So you come up with this because you think it sounds cool, and then just say ah the filmakers will work it out? Not sure how that makes sense.
    Sure it could happen, but nobody has said why, other than coming up with things that make no connection to anything other than "they love Luke"

    if you're trying to make a case for something, one should try and actually make a case for it is my point
     
  21. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Isn't that a good description of you, as well?

    Tons of the rumors, not just Devin, have mentioned that Luke is missing and there's a search for him. Why do you keep denying this?

    #hypocrisy
    #projection
     
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  22. Leoluca Randisi

    Leoluca Randisi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Badassdigest.com is a bogus web sight no better then TMZ, I once had a fight with Devin because I dared question why people have to curse so much on his web site?, he said "we are all adults here" and I said "how do you know that"? he then continued to barrage me with insults and curses. I said "I am not impressed, I am from Staten Island New York, up there every other word out of everyone's mouth is the N word and every other curse word known to man" I don't use the N Word because I am not Racist but I cant speak for some of my family and friends that live there, my Immediate family does not use the N Word either just so you all know.
     
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  23. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    not shocking Devin isn't a nice guy.
     
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  24. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Two non-hand/lightsaber tidbits from the article that are interesting to say the least:

    Referring to Boyega's character: or at least WAS a Stormtrooper before the defeat of the Empire…

    Boyega is 22 years old. Even if he could play someone older, this is a, well, weird excerpt. How could Boyega have been a ST before the Empire? Long life?

    Then there's this:

    although there is some question about whether or not the Empire may have some sort of involvement before this new trilogy is complete. It certainly won’t be full-scale as it was before in the Original Trilogy, but that doesn’t mean they won’t have some sort of residual presence....think more along the lines of neo-Nazis than the full Nazi regime

    So there is acknowledgment that the Empire was indeed defeated but that a new generation of Empire-loyalists have emerged? I'm not sure if this goes in line with or contradicts the first passage I quoted.

    Color me confused. What's you're take on that?

    My best guess (again, if there's ANY truth to ANY of this which will continue to be questionable): Boyega is a trooper of some sort working for the Neo-Empire-wannabes-with-a-grudge (NEWG'S) but the Empire we knew has been destroyed. Whatever remains will be subjects to a greater villain to which Driver and Christie may belong.
     
  25. nalkwan

    nalkwan Jedi Master star 4

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    I haven't denied that he's gone. The other rumors attached to that also say JB was a storm trooper before the empire ended, and tied to this, luke hasn't been seen since the rebellion won. I'm using that info, to suggest, that this means Luke has not been "missing" persay but he's went off on a missioin - the heroes don't know where he is - short form he's missing - doesn't mean he's in danger. The danger came from the severed hand. Remove that, and the new leak saying this is not about returning luke's hand pretty much puts a rest to the imminent threat.

    I've also said that if the above is wrong, and he is missing for 30 years, it's unbelievable that only suddenly the heroes would be in a rush to find him (this is where people say fill in the details) but that's a cop out, because it's suggesting why this would make sense to someone who hasn't watched a star wars movie before and this is their first one. Luke is important to you! so you would care, but you need to get the audience to buy why everyone is going off to find luke.

    I have given a lot of details of what I think might get people to be motivated to do this. Many times, i think it's fun to speculate how you could get them to do it. Not just say ah i think it's cool so the filmakers will make it happen.

    I have even given details and motivations to scenarios where Luke is in peril, and the motivations. I just think the latest clarifications no longer apply to this. If you remove the severed hand, there is nothing to imply that Luke is in peril - so to jump to that conclusion is no longer logical.
     
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