main
side
curve

Books A/V DARK DISCIPLE (Ventress/Vos novel) (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 24, 2014

    We don't know. It doesn't change the fact that they see TCW as canon. Something stupid that a member of the story group said once doesn't outweigh the fact that they've said multiple times that the movies and TCW are canon because they're the only things that Lucas worked on directly.
     
  2. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    May 4, 2011
    How did I not know you hated ROTS before now? You can't just stop being awesome can you?
     
    anakinfansince1983 likes this.
  3. Nom von Anor

    Nom von Anor Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Oct 7, 2012
    I thought Lucas worked directly on the Ewok movies too? I could be mistaken about that. But they're no longer part of canon.

    TCW is definitely canon now. It might stay canon for another 50 years. Will it stay canon forever? Who knows? Nothing is that sacred.
     
  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Mar 4, 2011
    I radiate awesome when I walk in rooms. Or hit the post key. :D
     
  5. revan772

    revan772 Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Aug 5, 2014
    Mortis is my favourite TCW arc, tied with the season five finale. Why don't people like it, out of curiosity? I have seen many people with the opinion that it is bad, and I am curious why. .-.

    *runs and hides in corner.*
     
    cwustudent and DigitalMessiah like this.
  6. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 24, 2014
    I get the feeling that there will be a rant soon.
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  7. Cynical_Ben

    Cynical_Ben Force Ghost star 4

    Registered:
    Aug 12, 2013
    I didn't like Mortis because, after the first episode was a decent little adventure with more ethereal overtones, the second and third drag the plot way too far out. "Twists" that get reset at the end and heavy-handed foreshadowing aren't enough to save a one-episode premise stretched out over three episodes. I didn't hate it, but I certainly wasn't a fan.
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  8. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Dec 17, 2011
    The best part about Mortis was getting to see Qui-Gon Jinn again.
     
  9. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 17, 2004
    Mortis is interesting because it has a lot of symbolism at work in it.

    What was done with it by the EU was terrible though.
     
  10. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Short version: it wasn't entertaining, it looked like bad drug trip and Anakin acted even stupider than he did in ROTS.

    Long version:

    Overlords

    Altar of Mortis

    Ghosts of Mortis
     
    Gorefiend likes this.
  11. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Yeah. It was the EU treatment in the novels that I disliked too.

    I enjoyed the episodes themselves (although, like Cynical_Ben I feel it worked better as a standalone episode, rather than being dragged out over three).
     
    Force Smuggler likes this.
  12. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
    The first one was fine by itself or they could have gone another episode and have Ashoka and Obi-Wan try to bring Anakin back. The Father bringing him back felt like a cop out imo.
     
  13. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
    I just hate the idea of the Ones.
     
  14. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 17, 2004
    The first episode is kind of misleading on its own. The interesting symbolism comes into play in the latter two IMO.

    Plus, the apparently Troy Denning only watched the first episode, which is why the EU butchered it.
     
    Revanfan1 and Force Smuggler like this.
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Mar 4, 2011
    I can't stand symbolism, the prophecy, or the Ones.

    (And I will flog the first person that asks me how I could possibly like Star Wars.)

    Nothing to like in that arc except Liam Neeson.
     
  16. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
    From what I have heard, the Ones are supposed to be something along the lines of the personification of the Balance of the Force, or at least come across as such.
     
  17. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 17, 2004
    The Father personifies the Unifying/Cosmic Force and the children personify the two sides of the Living Force.

    But what they really are, literal personifications or simply powerful beings that happen to represent these things, is wholly ambiguous.
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  18. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
    Which is an idea I hate and believe to be unnecessary.
     
    Riv_Shiel likes this.
  19. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 24, 2014
    My view has always been that none of them were real people any more than the Vader that Luke fights in the cave on Dagobagh was real. It was all just weird Force-stuff.

    Whenever I watch it, I watch it for Liam Neeson and for Ahsoka acting like Harley Quinn. Everything else is OK in my opinion, unless you pull a Denning and make all of it real. Then I want to bash my head against a wall.
     
    Starkeiller likes this.
  20. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    May 4, 2011
    I actually don't mind the Mortis arc, it was actually the Ventress episodes before this that got me watching TCW again (I gave up with the show initially in season 1) and I find this trilogy to be a nice follow up that made me decide I was a idiot for giving up on the show in the first place. But I can see the problems people would have with it, but don't see how some have labeled it the best episodes of the show. I think I love it just because Sam Witwer, Qui-Gon, and Original Trilogy foreshadowing...stuff.
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

    Registered:
    Jul 19, 1999
    So, in that case, who's Puddin'?
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  22. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 24, 2014

    ...sorry, that one went over my head. [face_dunno]
     
  23. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

    Registered:
    Jul 19, 1999
    It's Harley's pet name for Mr J aka Joker.
     
    cwustudent likes this.
  24. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

    Registered:
    Nov 21, 2000
    I always find it fascinating when people who like Star Wars hate a lot of things that make up Star Wars.
     
  25. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Consider yourself flogged.
     
    Riv_Shiel and ifleninwasawizard like this.