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Lit Was Revan ruined in SWTOR?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Slowpokeking, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    He's never a hero in SWTOR, just a tragic mad man, tried to use extreme way(more extreme than most Sith) to take down the Emperor. Now he's trying to wipe out both the Republic and the Empire and murder his own descendant. It's all just too crazy, I hope he will get redeemed again.
     
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  2. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    It is all a matter of perception. I haven't seen this game so I have no personal opinon at this time but terms like 'hero' and 'mad' make me wary though I tend to be drawn to 'tragic' male characters. I may look into this once my life settles.
     
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  3. Unbowed.Unbent.Unbroken

    Unbowed.Unbent.Unbroken Jedi Padawan star 1

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    All I can say is I bet the Jedi Exile's ghost is wishing she had spent those 300 years doing something else.:p
     
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  4. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Darth Revan is the best kind of Revan.
     
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  5. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I was kinda surprised when we were told the Emperor kept him alive for 300 years. SWTOR was a little disappointing for me; failed to match KoTOR. Would've preferred KoTOR III.
     
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  6. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I agree.

    A lot depends on point of view, and when it comes to Revan, we still know very little about him, but more what other people think they know about him. Right now, I'm still holding out for BioWare to do something different this time, and have a role reversal at the end of the next expansion, with Revan actually being revealed to have been doing the right thing all along.

    We've had mutual antagonists twice now with the Hutts and the Dread Lords, so it would be nice this time to have the Revanites be TOR's Argent Crusade. Are their methods a bit extreme? You bet. But that's what would provide some genuinely interesting choices for the player character later on-- something that the storyline has lacked for a long time. We might follow Revan down the rabbit hole, but how far we would be prepared to stare into the abyss would be another.
     
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  7. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I wish i had invested more time in this game... maybe i should. I never even finished the first storyline...
     
  8. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Honestly, I feel like the biggest "insult" to him in the game so far wasn't anything characterization-related, but how quickly he was disposed of in the Foundry mission. In contrast to that, "the return of Darth Revan" so far is being treated as a Big Deal with a lot of buildup. That keeps up and I'll probably be satisfied.
     
  9. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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  10. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    I'd say kind of yes. Part of it is that Revan turns out not to have done much in the last few centuries. Its arguable he influenced the Sith Emperor's mind, but its hard to tell for sure. Also, while saving him is a pretty interesting Republic flashpoint, then he just gets killed off in a Sith flashpoint. Now, maybe, he's back, but I'm expecting he'll just be the new third faction villain for both sides to fight. If they do an interesting storyline with him, we'll see.

    Doesn't help that the Revan novel was kind of... underwhelming.
     
  11. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, some people say that TOR is the worst thing that happened to Revan since Carth joined his crew. Others are happy that Revan has canon appearance and that for the first time they can see "true" Revan and his personality.

    IMHO it is too early to say whatever SWTOR ruined his character or not. I suppose that we will be able to judge it after upcoming expansion about which currently we know nothing about. We even are not 100% sure that this guy is Revan. During today's stream they were asked why his voice is different and they avoided answering this question saying something like "We would discuss it later".

    If his story had ended in the Foundry it would had been quite awful use of character. Luckly he is still alive...(at least apparently).
     
  12. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    IMO, TOR did something right, at least–got Jeff Bennett to voice Revan. :cool:

    But seriously though, I loved Revan in Maelstrom Prison and thought he was handled there well. Foundry, not so much, but I understood why they did what they did. In these new flashpoints, I'm not ready to say yay or nay yet. He could be doing something a lot less evil-destroy-the-galaxy-y than we think he is. I'll say that I'm glad the Foundry wasn't the end of his character. Hopefully this story arc will end with him being redeemed. Or something.

    RafSwi7, so it's not Bennett in the new flashpoint? Well he's certainly a good imitator then. But it could be an indicator that this isn't actually Revan then... [face_thinking]
     
  13. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    IIRC they did not confirmed or denied whatever Bennett returns as Revan voice actor.
     
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  14. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Master star 3

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    Meh, Revan should be dead by now, the fact he's still around and just getting more and more psycho isn't appealing.
     
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  15. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Would it have been better if canon Revan is a woman?
     
  16. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    more entertaining for sure
     
  17. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I already dislike what TOR did to Revan. If they just wiped out everything he went through in KOTOR (seriously, the man had a story arc that redeemed him!) and turns him into an evil son of a sith...I'm going to ragequit and go back to my happy place imagining Revan lived happily ever after with Bastila.
     
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  18. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Nah. If only because Bastila is more interesting than Carth, and the romance connection makes Bastila's redemption more interesting. The Exile, on the other hand? Yeah, female is more interesting. Although both Brianna and Visas are far and away more interesting than Mical, Atton beats them all down. And the female Exile has the advantage of the connection to Sion that the male doesn't, making that encounter more interesting, too.
     
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  19. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Personally, I actually like Carth a lot better. But he's not nearly as relevant to the plot.
     
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  20. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    All the dude ever does is whine, though. He's much better in the KOTOR comics.
     
  21. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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  22. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    But at least he has a nice smile. :p
     
  23. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    If only we could have had a KotOR 3, following Zayne and co from the KotOR comics. Besides Bastilla, they were far more interesting than the characters from the games.
     
  24. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I like Carth, dammit!
     
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  25. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Carth's great, and it still bothers me how the player can basically be nothing but dismissive or outright confrontational about his perfectly reasonable concerns.

    Carth: Dude, I like you, but don't you think the Jedi Council assigning this mission to a freshly minted padawan is weird as hell?
    Nice Revan: Nah, stop being paranoid. (LS POINTS GAINED!)
    Bad Revan: STOP WHINING YOU PARANOID FREAK! (DS POINTS GAINED!)
    English FemShep: I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions!
    Carth: Bastila, wha- [Is punched]