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Lit The Tenebrous Way...

Discussion in 'Literature' started by SaucySarlaac, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. SaucySarlaac

    SaucySarlaac Jedi Knight star 1

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    Hi All,

    Can anyone explain what happened to Tenebrous in the short story published in Insider... I didn't catch the copy and I'm looking for any help on where I can get a hold of a copy of it.

    The Wook suggests he becomes lost in the force, trapped outside his body, but thats a bit vague IMO...

    Any help/detailed explanation would be amazing... thank you.
     
  2. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's probably easiest to explain it as him being a Force ghost trapped in a Groundhog Day loop, but one where time "outside" of his body keeps going forward, and his memory keeps resetting as well. Basically his attempt to jump bodies left him with only a few minutes of conscious thought, which keep repeating/resetting for centuries, and as soon as he realizes that by noticing his corpse is now ancient, he starts back over at the beginning.

    Incidentally, I couldn't believe this story wasn't included in the Darth Plagueis paperback. It's such a natural fit, and where else are they going to put it? Is there some collection of Insider fiction that will ever get released? It's too good a story to just fade away into the mists of time...
     
  3. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    He said he cloaked the foreseeing ability of Plagueis but Plagueis could still foresee many things.
     
  4. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    What Dr. Steve Brule said. Very Twilight-Zoneish. Wish we had more of that in the EU.
     
  5. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Hey, who turned out the lights?"
     
  6. Unbowed.Unbent.Unbroken

    Unbowed.Unbent.Unbroken Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Plagueis sometimes had brief visions of the future, mainly about irrelevant places, but his foresight failed him spectacularly on at least 3 occasions. There was the Maladian ambush, where he would have died if not for Sidious. There was the bombing of Sojourn, which Plagueis only survived because he was tipped off by Jabba, and there was his death at Sidious' hands.
     
  7. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Well I don't think his foresight could see anything even without Tenebrous' meddling otherwise he would be able to know Tenebrous' plan as well, he also foresaw what would Sidious become.

    I think the last one is mostly caused by his own arrogance, he should have known Sidious' ambition, especially when he asked for co-chancellor.
     
  8. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    If Tenebrous isn't completely dead, does that mean he could come back as the villain of the ST?
     
  9. SaucySarlaac

    SaucySarlaac Jedi Knight star 1

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    Any ideas where I can get a copy of the story? sounds awesome
     
  10. Zorkel567

    Zorkel567 Jedi Master star 4

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  11. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    As a Freedon Nadd in TotJ like role, yes.
    As the antagonist, NO.
     
  12. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It would also depend when the ST is set, since The Tenebrous Way makes it clear his spirit has been trapped there for centuries, which would put it in the far future even of Legacy.

    Of course that's assuming the ST would follow the established EU or Michael Arndt even knows who Tenebrous is.
     
  13. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    Really wish i'd picked up the copy of insider it came out in, because the story sounds amazing.
     
  14. AplagueOnTheWise

    AplagueOnTheWise Jedi Master star 3

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    Where can I find a copy of this story!!?
     
  15. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Star Wars Insider 130
     
  16. AplagueOnTheWise

    AplagueOnTheWise Jedi Master star 3

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    I mean online.
     
  17. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    Finally I got a Star Wars Insider Magazin back-issue with the story. I'm so happy to read it soon!
     
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  18. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Knowing you're into weird stuff, you'll love it. Stover's the king of bringing Outer Limits/Twilight Zone stories to the GFFA.
     
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  19. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I wonder if Tenebrous's attempt to transfer his maxi-chlorians into Plagueis is what caused Plagueis to fal to see that Sheev would kill him.
     
  20. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    In the novel it is said that Plagueis wondered about why he still could feel a force-user after he killed Tenebrous. I read somewhere else that the visionary spotlights came back to him when Tenebrous left his body seeing that Plagueis would't finish the Great Plan. And when Plagueis killed Ars Veruna he had a glimpse of foresight to see that he had walked the way, Veruna was going to finish, too already. But he couldn't see it more like a blurry deja-vu - I suppose.

    Plagueis' foresight is in some cases just like Yodas. He sometimes gets a glimpse of something, but not always of the very important things.

    BTW: I'm reading currently a fabulous story named "Forceborn" by Alexian Cale in fanfiction. net.

    I have the feeling of reading James Luceno by that. And Cale describes the relationship between Plagueis and Tenebrous in a very deep and detailed way. I can only recommend that lecture.
     
  21. Sudooku

    Sudooku Jedi Master star 4

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    Now I have red the short story of Matthew Stover. A brilliant plan of Tenebrous. But in the end he miscalculated. The only logic error I find is the hasty and IMHO clueless way, the maxichlorians imbued with Tenebrous' mind escape Plagueis' body after realizing, that Plagueis will be murdered by his apprentice. Why didn't Tenebrous just wait till Sidious shows up to migrate from one host to another? There are just two years left at utmost till Plagueis finds Palpatine on Naboo.

    Then after another 32 distracting entertaining years Tenebrous would have had many pleasant meetings with Anakin to change host again - that little sturdy body-nomad. And then Tenebrous could have dwelled in a stunning insight of how is live in the Jedi-Temple. He could meet Padmé ... oh my! He will be annoyed by the frequent emotional outbursts of the Chosen One. And his maxichlorians will cry .. get us outta here!

    Instead he is boring himself hovering in the nowhere. How miserable!

    And after reading, that Plagueis meant not originally "plague", but "contaminated", while Tenebrous planned just from the beginning to bestow his elevated maxichlorians on his apprentice, I have the feeling, that also the name "Venamis" for his other apprentice was chosen for just the same sake.

    Tenebrous was just not sure into which of his two apprentices he should let pour his maxichlorians carrying his sophisticated mind. That's why he sent Venamis to Sojourn to find out. Or he knew from the beginning that Venamis will perish in the Duel of apprentices because he saw from the beginning in the younger bith only a Maul-like assassin and not a real Sith.
     
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